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In a secure vault on your phone
by wolvoleo 14d ago
In a secure vault on your phone
- mystifyingpoi 14d agoSo if I drop my phone to the toilet, I will forever lose access to everything? Since the vault is on my phone.
- faust201 14d agoA majority have more than one phone. Or at least they can get a new SIM card and sign into the iCloud account. Then all passkeys are synced from cloud. Yes, if you are edward snowden then not for you. For rest of us - it is useful
- caryme 14d agoA majority have more than one phone?
- faust201 14d agoOr they have a laptop or tablet - even the cheapest one that has logged into Google or Apple. That way they can recover.
- chrystalkey 14d agoIdk how much money you must be having, but all of my bubbles only ever go with one device
- faust201 14d agothis is ridiculous. I don't even have a bubble device. Run lineageos in a decent 2020 device moto G32 for €100. Yes, you can afford to host everything locally. Not everyone can.
- recursive 14d agoThis is crazy. I have one phone and zero iCloud. I don't think I'm that unusual.
- faust201 14d agoYou are exaggerating. If the loss or lockdown is so bad then many would have stopped using any of icloud or google equivalent. People are able to depend on it. People are able to repair and use phones even when it falls into abyss.
- recursive 14d agoWell, I mean yes. People for whom it works. Others never started.
- rcxdude 14d agoNot always. And which vault? There can be multiple on a given device. This isn't some hypothetical 'mollify the user's worries' question, this is an important practical question of what do they need to worry about losing access to. Trust me when I say that most users I have talked to have absolutely no idea about this, and usually only find out when they've already lost them.
- malfist 14d agoHow do I use it on my desktop or laptop then? What if I switch browsers on my phone? What if I get a new phone? What if I change from android to iOS or visa versa? What if I need to log into the site on my Wii U's browser?
- faust201 14d agoas long as you have one working device all will be OK. Either you scan the QR code shown by the website. or if you did login to Chrome with google account then desktop or laptop will just sign you -friction less. Same with iCloud account. If you browser vendor has implemented passkey then all good. Most things are built for the majority users. Most don't change. Most don't debate browser wars in hn. Life is like that. For Wii etc. You just scan the QR code shown in the TV interface. all just works. Yes, if you want 100% privacy and will do only your own dovecot server then it is not for you.
- Johnny555 14d ago>How do I use it on my desktop or laptop then >What if I switch browsers on my phone >What if I get a new phone You can let Apple sync your passkeys between devices using iCloud Keychain. Then you can create a passkey on one device and have it available on all of your devices. Google also syncs passkeys to the cloud and lets you use them on Windows (with Chrome) >What if I change from android to iOS or visa versa I resolve this by storing most of my passkeys in my password manager. I still store the "important" ones (like online banking) in my phone so a password manager breach doesn't make me lose my money. >What if I need to log into the site on my Wii U's browser? Passkeys were designed to let you have more than one, so if you have a device that doesn't let you use your password manager, then just set up another passkey.
- cpburns2009 14d agoGreat, what happens if I lose my phone?