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>The reason DHH is getting loud complaints is because people feel that they carry a legitimate grievance but also feel no way to voice that opinion (or are trol

>The reason DHH is getting loud complaints is because people feel that they carry a legitimate grievance but also feel no way to voice that opinion (or are trolls). Douchetastic talking down to them like exemplified in this post won't help (and will encourage trolls). I don't see anything bad (sorry, I guess we're saying "douchetastic" these days) about the post. "My pet theory is that it feels like meaningful activism in the moment. They haven't really paid much attention to how things are run on a day-to-day basis, but here's an opportunity to paint some signs and get on the barricades. Yeah, I've done my part! I've taken a stand! Down with.. uhm.. Turbolinks? Or was it CoffeeScript we're protesting this week? Or Bundler? Oh fuck it, down with SOMETHING! YEAH!!!" I mean, you really don't see this as douchey or talking down? How? To me it actually seems impossible to read that and say "Sounds like a legitimate complaint from the creator of a popular framework" unless you already had your mind made up DHH was right no matter what.

zem 14y ago
you're completely passing over the fact that there are people with illegitimate grievances, the response to which genuinely should be "well, don't use rails then". i thought dhh's post provided a good analogy for people who don't get that on a software stack level to relate to.
- ryguytilidie 14y ago
  So? There are tons of people, including both rails core and ruby core contributors with legitimate grievances, in the exact thread in question, that are lumped in with this group DHH is mocking. Its an absolutely terrible analogy and is completely disingenuous to the current situation. This summed it up best in my eyes: "Reading this feels exactly like reading the passive aggressive facebook posts of someone currently in a fight with their boy/girlfriend. "

zem 14y ago

you're completely passing over the fact that there are people with illegitimate grievances, the response to which genuinely should be "well, don't use rails then". i thought dhh's post provided a good analogy for people who don't get that on a software stack level to relate to.

ryguytilidie 14y ago
So? There are tons of people, including both rails core and ruby core contributors with legitimate grievances, in the exact thread in question, that are lumped in with this group DHH is mocking. Its an absolutely terrible analogy and is completely disingenuous to the current situation. This summed it up best in my eyes: "Reading this feels exactly like reading the passive aggressive facebook posts of someone currently in a fight with their boy/girlfriend. "