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This reminds me of this: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/03/26/why-we-need-you-government?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://obamawhitehouse.archives

This reminds me of this: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/03/26/why-we-need-you-government?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/03/26/why-we-... I saw the talk version of that and it has lodged in my memory. The point he made was that "health.gov" was made by a bunch of teams that made sure that their part worked, but nobody was in charge of making the whole thing work. This is sadly "normal" for large bureaucracies. Every time I see a giant, multi-million dollar catastrophe, it's always "proper", "documented", "enterprise", "by the book", and... "a total failure". The reason is always that nobody actually cares about the final outcome, only the paperwork in front of them that they need fill out, the checkbox that needs to be ticked, or the compliance requirement that needs to be met.

UpsideDownRide 8d ago
This, in my opinion, is some part of how we are schooling people - do as you are told and follow the rules and some part of not having stakes in the outcome.
- XorNot 8d ago
  No this is what the corporate world does to you. There's a brief period when you join any company where you really want to improve things, and then about a year in the system has asserted towards the mean. Nothing to do with schooling, every thing to do with business structures.
seb1204 8d ago
This was inspiring, thanks for sharing.
consp 8d ago
Why did you include the source tracker in your link?
- jiggawatts 8d ago
  Definitely not on purpose! I keep forgetting that ChatGPT does that now, which is rather irritating because I don’t use it to write comments but the tracker makes it look like I do. I do use ChatGPT to resolve vague memories of articles read long ago into concrete URLs I can share, which is one of the best uses of the accursed things right now! I assure you that I am an organic meat human like yourself and the article dates itself to the “before times” and can also be trusted to be free of contamination.
  - hdgvhicv 8d ago
    ChatGPT is a far more useful search engine than Google, duckduckgo, etc. It won’t last, but just as Google was so much better than hotbit, altavista, yahoo etc back in the day.

UpsideDownRide 8d ago

This, in my opinion, is some part of how we are schooling people - do as you are told and follow the rules and some part of not having stakes in the outcome.

XorNot 8d ago
No this is what the corporate world does to you. There's a brief period when you join any company where you really want to improve things, and then about a year in the system has asserted towards the mean. Nothing to do with schooling, every thing to do with business structures.

seb1204 8d ago

This was inspiring, thanks for sharing.

consp 8d ago

Why did you include the source tracker in your link?

jiggawatts 8d ago
Definitely not on purpose! I keep forgetting that ChatGPT does that now, which is rather irritating because I don’t use it to write comments but the tracker makes it look like I do. I do use ChatGPT to resolve vague memories of articles read long ago into concrete URLs I can share, which is one of the best uses of the accursed things right now! I assure you that I am an organic meat human like yourself and the article dates itself to the “before times” and can also be trusted to be free of contamination.
- hdgvhicv 8d ago
  ChatGPT is a far more useful search engine than Google, duckduckgo, etc. It won’t last, but just as Google was so much better than hotbit, altavista, yahoo etc back in the day.