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"There are also some shared values between all these people" is guilt by association by definition. The rest of your comment is even worse. Cults? Consider AG

by lstodd 17d ago

"There are also some shared values between all these people" is guilt by association by definition. The rest of your comment is even worse. Cults? Consider AGW cult where people reject any attempt of a discourse because "science is settled". Which is equivalent to "God told us this".

eszed 17d ago
For those of you not familiar with the acronym, "AGW" stands for Anthropogenic Global Warming. (Though, Istodd, please correct me if there is another meaning of which I am not aware. I would be embarrassed to have impugned your credibility in error.)
- totallymike 16d ago
  I mean they did claim that pointing to science to support your position in an argument is tantamount to dogmatic faith, so I don’t think you need to worry about impugning what isn’t there
  - lstodd 16d ago
    pointing to a "consensus" which is antithetical to science method. but ye, who I am to persecute people based on their beliefs, this is for religious people to do.
    - totallymike 16d ago
      This is the last reply you get because you’re already convinced you’re smarter than I am. Who knows, maybe you are, but disbelieving scientists sounds pretty stupid to me. Science is peer reviewed by field experts who constantly test and develop said expertise in order to defeat their own biases, and their work backed by data. Scientists openly invite criticism and deconstruction of their work. That, nominally, is the whole point of getting your work published. That’s a far cry from the dogmatic acceptance of faith that you’re pretending it is
      - lstodd 16d ago
        ^^ Behold the religious belief in "peer review" "field experts" and the attempt at argument reversal at the end. This is what middle ages were famous for, and it took Renaissance to get rid of this. edit: Giordano Bruno was burned at stake for challengin people like you.
CoolestBeans 16d ago
Look I started my comment saying I'm on periphery. If its guilt by association then I'm right there. My contention isn't the association, its the shared values that associate them to each other. Its their values I have an issue with.

by lstodd 17d ago

eszed 17d ago

For those of you not familiar with the acronym, "AGW" stands for Anthropogenic Global Warming. (Though, Istodd, please correct me if there is another meaning of which I am not aware. I would be embarrassed to have impugned your credibility in error.)

totallymike 16d ago
I mean they did claim that pointing to science to support your position in an argument is tantamount to dogmatic faith, so I don’t think you need to worry about impugning what isn’t there
- lstodd 16d ago
  pointing to a "consensus" which is antithetical to science method. but ye, who I am to persecute people based on their beliefs, this is for religious people to do.
  - totallymike 16d ago
    This is the last reply you get because you’re already convinced you’re smarter than I am. Who knows, maybe you are, but disbelieving scientists sounds pretty stupid to me. Science is peer reviewed by field experts who constantly test and develop said expertise in order to defeat their own biases, and their work backed by data. Scientists openly invite criticism and deconstruction of their work. That, nominally, is the whole point of getting your work published. That’s a far cry from the dogmatic acceptance of faith that you’re pretending it is
    - lstodd 16d ago
      ^^ Behold the religious belief in "peer review" "field experts" and the attempt at argument reversal at the end. This is what middle ages were famous for, and it took Renaissance to get rid of this. edit: Giordano Bruno was burned at stake for challengin people like you.

CoolestBeans 16d ago

Look I started my comment saying I'm on periphery. If its guilt by association then I'm right there. My contention isn't the association, its the shared values that associate them to each other. Its their values I have an issue with.