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I'd rather have the world end than live in a world where EAs are listened to or respected.
by lbrito 17d ago
I'd rather have the world end than live in a world where EAs are listened to or respected.
- againstapples 17d agoI agree they’re kinda weird but are they really that bad?
- Viliam1234 17d agois dying really so bad compared to admitting that you were wrong and some weirdo was right? for many people the answer seems to be: not really.
- jplusequalt 17d agoYes. Sam Bankman Fried was/is an EA/rationalist (on the short list of biggest fraudsters in American history). So are the Zizian's (a murder cult). etc. etc.
- Viliam1234 17d agoSBF maybe, but Ziz declared rationalists to be their main enemy
- jplusequalt 17d agoAnd? The Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks were both socialist factions who were coming from the same intellectual milieu, and they killed each other.
- Viliam1234 17d agoThey also killed lots of unrelated people. Let's not take the argument far enough to claim that everyone who was ever killed by socialists must have been a socialist, too. Perhaps the author of the article is a rationalist, too. He certainly knows too much about them, cares too much, and the fact that he criticizes them only shows that there is some infighting among them.
- jplusequalt 17d ago>Let's not take the argument far enough to claim that everyone who was ever killed by socialists must have been a socialist, too. Well it's a good thing I only mentioned the two groups who were explicitly socialists!
- shimman 17d agoYeah, similar to like how southern baptists declared evangelicals to be their enemy too for not being fanatical enough. Death cults are weird like that.
- againstapples 17d agoI don’t see why I would judge a whole group based on isolated examples?
- lbrito 17d agoYes. Their core belief system is morally abhorrent.
- againstapples 17d agoWhat about their beliefs is morally abhorrent?
- 4bpp 17d agoIf you are serious about this preference, would you also be okay with a compromise solution where only you (and anyone else who feels the same) die, rather than taking everyone else with you?