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I purchased a "perpetual" license for Office 2019 for Mac some years ago. In the last few months, a key certificate expired, and completely bricked the software

by jbeyer 16d ago

I purchased a "perpetual" license for Office 2019 for Mac some years ago. In the last few months, a key certificate expired, and completely bricked the software. MSFT is well aware of the issue, but has decided that they are no longer supporting Office 2019, despite the "perpetual" license. This is clearly planned obsolescence and false advertising. A state AG should investigate.

gnabgib 16d ago
That's a competing OS issue, not a perpetual Office issue (2013 is still running fine for me, but best not to open untrusted docx)
themadturk 16d ago
I did this as well a few years ago, fortunately for a relatively small sum of money. I don't need MS products all that much, usually just Word. So I'm very happy with LibreOffice.
rstuart4133 16d ago
> I purchased a "perpetual" license for Office 2019 My, memories are short. In 2008 Microsoft "Play for Sure" became play no more. Exactly the same stunt, 11 years before you bought that perpetual licence. Why anybody trusted the company after Play For Sure was a mystery to me. And that was just the beginning. Then came Sony being ripped a new one, Azure being taken down by expired certs - twice in 6 months, critical certs signed with MD5 until it's so weak they were exploited, more recently China running rampant in hosted exchange scraping state secrets, GitHub with record down time, and Windows has become a dog slow ad platform. And yet today Microsoft makes the most revenue than any other software firm. I dunno how they do it. After decades of treating their customers like shit, business has never been so good. They must have one mother of a sales team.
- ghusto 16d ago
  I heard the novel term "Golf Driven Development" the other day. Essentially it's where software/services aren't sold because people wanted or asked for them, they're sold because one CEO played golf with another CEO (with the express purpose of making this happen). Salesforce, Microsoft, Atlassian, and co. are obviously sold on their merits.
- SirFatty 16d ago
  Also, the inability to have older software installed with newer software because of the installer type. e.g. Visio 2019 and Office 365 suite cannot coexist.

by jbeyer 16d ago

gnabgib 16d ago

That's a competing OS issue, not a perpetual Office issue (2013 is still running fine for me, but best not to open untrusted docx)

themadturk 16d ago

I did this as well a few years ago, fortunately for a relatively small sum of money. I don't need MS products all that much, usually just Word. So I'm very happy with LibreOffice.

rstuart4133 16d ago

> I purchased a "perpetual" license for Office 2019 My, memories are short. In 2008 Microsoft "Play for Sure" became play no more. Exactly the same stunt, 11 years before you bought that perpetual licence. Why anybody trusted the company after Play For Sure was a mystery to me. And that was just the beginning. Then came Sony being ripped a new one, Azure being taken down by expired certs - twice in 6 months, critical certs signed with MD5 until it's so weak they were exploited, more recently China running rampant in hosted exchange scraping state secrets, GitHub with record down time, and Windows has become a dog slow ad platform. And yet today Microsoft makes the most revenue than any other software firm. I dunno how they do it. After decades of treating their customers like shit, business has never been so good. They must have one mother of a sales team.

ghusto 16d ago
I heard the novel term "Golf Driven Development" the other day. Essentially it's where software/services aren't sold because people wanted or asked for them, they're sold because one CEO played golf with another CEO (with the express purpose of making this happen). Salesforce, Microsoft, Atlassian, and co. are obviously sold on their merits.
SirFatty 16d ago
Also, the inability to have older software installed with newer software because of the installer type. e.g. Visio 2019 and Office 365 suite cannot coexist.