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People that are saying OpenAI is screwed because a lack of profit, I'm not of that opinion. They are encroaching on every industry they can. They have name br

People that are saying OpenAI is screwed because a lack of profit, I'm not of that opinion. They are encroaching on every industry they can. They have name brand recognition, a huge user base and are showing they can be a valuable tool to all types of businesses. As much as I hate to see it. They are now threatening industries like Engineers, Game Developers, Accountants, 3D modelers, 3D animators, Video Production, Audio Production, Therapist, Tax Auditors, Journalists, Authors, Artists, Mathematicians, Product managers, Every type of analyst and pretty much any other job that can be done behind a computer screen. We have big problems for humanity.

swed420 9d ago
> We have big problems for humanity. The biggest problem is that we're conditioned by a paradigm that frames these as problems.
superxpro12 9d ago
I'd kill for an AI that can tell me how to fix shit on my own, with proper permitting and building codes factored in.
- hackmack10 9d ago
  I used ChatGPT the other day to resink a CPU with termal paste, replace a PSU in my PC and snake my kitchen sink from the wall. I didn't exactly need it's help but wanted someone looking over my shoulder so to speak. It can help you repair all types of stuff, but as far as county / building codes and such, that probably isn't far off. It seems to understand things quite well.
mawadev 9d ago
I think the future is going to look pretty boring, we are all going to review and put our signature below LLM generated output...
- WarmWash 9d ago
  By that point money ceases to have value, because the value of money comes from the motivation it gives people to work. If AI does everything, then money is useless (unless AI like money for some reason).
  - trinari 9d ago
    There will still be a need to distribute and exchange ressources, goods and services. Real estate, food, energy, mobility. That will be done with money. Or violence. Either way, a scary future to people when labor doesn't provide any value. Elon promises abundance, but what can he do against greed?
    - xpct 8d ago
      I am genuinely worried about violence, especially if people start losing their jobs due to automation.
  - esafak 8d ago
    People are still going to be motivated to eat and have shelter.
    - WarmWash 8d ago
      Of course, but who (what?) is going to make the food and the shelter?
      - esafak 8d ago
        Either way, it's not going to be free, so if money ceases to have value, we are going to have a problem. That's my point.
    - program_whiz 8d ago
      Yeah could get interesting. Things like legal, programming, math, etc. are going to be relatively cheap / free. Meanwhile something like natural resources, building things, yardwork, etc. may go up in value. Or perhaps we end up with a relatively "spiky" economy since 90% of people are just doing physical jobs (the only human jobs with value), and the AI owner class of course gains all the value from intellectual products (with value diminishing towards cost of electricity). Thinking as human value may be roughly as valuable as it ever was (which is to say nearly non-existant other than the ability to solve an immediate physical problem). Might also be that physical strength and stamina are the highest value mating traits, since they will be able to protect and provide. Physically weak intellectual types will have little value since they can't out-think the machines, and they also can't provide for a family by doing valuable physical tasks. IQ overall begins to drop as mating favors intelligence less and less, as it can actually be an impedance to being productive. For a short time in history, the ability to obsessively focus on intellectually interesting abstract concepts was highly lucrative, but just as quickly we returned to the laws of nature: those who can lift and move succeed, those who can only think are automated out of existance. We go from a species increasingly seeing themselves as "brains with bodies" to "amazing bodies with weak brains". The limitation of robots and AI in the physical realm, power hungry, mobility limited are contrasted with human values: energy efficient, highly mobile and dexterous, extremely good strength/speed/size ratios. The brain on the other hand, while energy efficient, is completely outclassed and seen as we see our swimming/jumping abilities: a novelty for sports, but nothing we seriously consider a defining human trait. The smartest humans can fill weekends with novelty pursuits like building circuits, games, programs, etc. But they are about as useful as whittling and hobby woodcraft, something to pass time, but ultimately of no economic value.
ReptileMan 9d ago
As one wise man said - the oldest profession will also be the last to go.
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ai-x 8d ago
Most HNers are clueless that if you have Top Talent + Capital you already have an insurmountable moat. OpenAI, SpaceX, Anthropic all have that and none of the regular guys can compete against them (if they choose to attack that industry)

swed420 9d ago

> We have big problems for humanity. The biggest problem is that we're conditioned by a paradigm that frames these as problems.

superxpro12 9d ago

I'd kill for an AI that can tell me how to fix shit on my own, with proper permitting and building codes factored in.

hackmack10 9d ago
I used ChatGPT the other day to resink a CPU with termal paste, replace a PSU in my PC and snake my kitchen sink from the wall. I didn't exactly need it's help but wanted someone looking over my shoulder so to speak. It can help you repair all types of stuff, but as far as county / building codes and such, that probably isn't far off. It seems to understand things quite well.

mawadev 9d ago

I think the future is going to look pretty boring, we are all going to review and put our signature below LLM generated output...

WarmWash 9d ago
By that point money ceases to have value, because the value of money comes from the motivation it gives people to work. If AI does everything, then money is useless (unless AI like money for some reason).
- trinari 9d ago
  There will still be a need to distribute and exchange ressources, goods and services. Real estate, food, energy, mobility. That will be done with money. Or violence. Either way, a scary future to people when labor doesn't provide any value. Elon promises abundance, but what can he do against greed?
  - xpct 8d ago
    I am genuinely worried about violence, especially if people start losing their jobs due to automation.
- esafak 8d ago
  People are still going to be motivated to eat and have shelter.
  - WarmWash 8d ago
    Of course, but who (what?) is going to make the food and the shelter?
    - esafak 8d ago
      Either way, it's not going to be free, so if money ceases to have value, we are going to have a problem. That's my point.
  - program_whiz 8d ago
    Yeah could get interesting. Things like legal, programming, math, etc. are going to be relatively cheap / free. Meanwhile something like natural resources, building things, yardwork, etc. may go up in value. Or perhaps we end up with a relatively "spiky" economy since 90% of people are just doing physical jobs (the only human jobs with value), and the AI owner class of course gains all the value from intellectual products (with value diminishing towards cost of electricity). Thinking as human value may be roughly as valuable as it ever was (which is to say nearly non-existant other than the ability to solve an immediate physical problem). Might also be that physical strength and stamina are the highest value mating traits, since they will be able to protect and provide. Physically weak intellectual types will have little value since they can't out-think the machines, and they also can't provide for a family by doing valuable physical tasks. IQ overall begins to drop as mating favors intelligence less and less, as it can actually be an impedance to being productive. For a short time in history, the ability to obsessively focus on intellectually interesting abstract concepts was highly lucrative, but just as quickly we returned to the laws of nature: those who can lift and move succeed, those who can only think are automated out of existance. We go from a species increasingly seeing themselves as "brains with bodies" to "amazing bodies with weak brains". The limitation of robots and AI in the physical realm, power hungry, mobility limited are contrasted with human values: energy efficient, highly mobile and dexterous, extremely good strength/speed/size ratios. The brain on the other hand, while energy efficient, is completely outclassed and seen as we see our swimming/jumping abilities: a novelty for sports, but nothing we seriously consider a defining human trait. The smartest humans can fill weekends with novelty pursuits like building circuits, games, programs, etc. But they are about as useful as whittling and hobby woodcraft, something to pass time, but ultimately of no economic value.

ReptileMan 9d ago

As one wise man said - the oldest profession will also be the last to go.

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ai-x 8d ago

Most HNers are clueless that if you have Top Talent + Capital you already have an insurmountable moat. OpenAI, SpaceX, Anthropic all have that and none of the regular guys can compete against them (if they choose to attack that industry)