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He said "mafia state". Italy was/is a non controversial example of that. Firmly in Western Europe.

• rayiner 29d ago
  Was that ever true of Italy as a whole? Or was it like the Yakuza, which exists but doesn’t affect your average person, at least in recent memory.
  • red-iron-pine 29d ago
    the Yakuza isn't running local or national governments in Italy, there are deep ties to governments, esp. in the south, and they've had their fingers all the way into national leadership before; see also: bunga bunga
  • deleted 29d ago
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  • jackb4040 29d ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due
• ashoeafoot 28d ago
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