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> If the US military was unethical, it wouldn't have lost in Afghanistan You can be unethical and still profoundly incompetent.

WarmWash 16d ago
Smoking out villages and shooting everything that moves with cutting edge weaponry doesn't require much competence.
- text0404 16d ago
  Which is why the US famously won the Vietnam war...
  - WarmWash 16d ago
    If that was the case the My Lai Massacre would be meaningless, because the entire war would have been that.
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    - nulld3v 16d ago
      Genocide is usually not an efficient way to wage war. Even ancient armies usually did not slaughter entire towns, not because of ethics, but because fighting sucks and if you slaughter everybody you come across, nobody is going to surrender and every person you come across will fight you to the death. I say usually, because there are some exceptions and nukes are one of them, they make genocide a viable war strategy. But even nuking Vietnam would not have worked, cause you will simply get nuked back.
      - WarmWash 15d ago
        Its more that you make it clear that you will kill anyone who doesn't surrender. Then most people end up surrendering. In modern militaries though, the expectation is that you will just leave civilians alone.
        surgical_fire 15d ago
        There are some terrorist states that indiscriminately kill civilians though, such as Israel and the USA. The worst thing people would do is surrendering in those cases.
        twirldat 15d ago
        As opposed to who? Iran fired missiles at Israeli (and Arab) civilian areas, so did Hezbollah and Hamas when they used to have that capability.
        surgical_fire 15d ago
        That's precisely what I expected. That people would pop up defending US atrocities by equating them with the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah. And you know what? You're right. Those are all terrorist organizations.
        hndweller1337 14d ago
        >account created 1 hour ago Nice. https://jackpoulson.substack.com/p/inside-the-pro-israel-information https://jackpoulson.substack.com/p/inside-the-pro-israel-inf...
    - jackie293746 16d ago
      The entire war was that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange
cineticdaffodil 16d ago
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WarmWash 16d ago

Smoking out villages and shooting everything that moves with cutting edge weaponry doesn't require much competence.

text0404 16d ago
Which is why the US famously won the Vietnam war...
- WarmWash 16d ago
  If that was the case the My Lai Massacre would be meaningless, because the entire war would have been that.
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  - nulld3v 16d ago
    Genocide is usually not an efficient way to wage war. Even ancient armies usually did not slaughter entire towns, not because of ethics, but because fighting sucks and if you slaughter everybody you come across, nobody is going to surrender and every person you come across will fight you to the death. I say usually, because there are some exceptions and nukes are one of them, they make genocide a viable war strategy. But even nuking Vietnam would not have worked, cause you will simply get nuked back.
    - WarmWash 15d ago
      Its more that you make it clear that you will kill anyone who doesn't surrender. Then most people end up surrendering. In modern militaries though, the expectation is that you will just leave civilians alone.
      - surgical_fire 15d ago
        There are some terrorist states that indiscriminately kill civilians though, such as Israel and the USA. The worst thing people would do is surrendering in those cases.
        twirldat 15d ago
        As opposed to who? Iran fired missiles at Israeli (and Arab) civilian areas, so did Hezbollah and Hamas when they used to have that capability.
        surgical_fire 15d ago
        That's precisely what I expected. That people would pop up defending US atrocities by equating them with the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah. And you know what? You're right. Those are all terrorist organizations.
        hndweller1337 14d ago
        >account created 1 hour ago Nice. https://jackpoulson.substack.com/p/inside-the-pro-israel-information https://jackpoulson.substack.com/p/inside-the-pro-israel-inf...
  - jackie293746 16d ago
    The entire war was that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange

cineticdaffodil 16d ago

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