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You seem to be among those who enjoy replacing old technologies by violently removing them, including impoverishment of those who rely on them.

toomuchtodo 16d ago
You see what you want to see. I am sharing objective facts and data. Low carbon energy economics are better, oil is dead, these are facts, it is what it is. If you think you can make oil cheap again, go for it, let us know how it goes. No one is going to make it cheap for you, it is economically irrational to do so. 'Offensively cheap': solar power is looking up - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49695304 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49695304 - September 2026 The solarisation of Pakistan’s energy economy - https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/the-solarisation-of-pakistans-energy-economy/ https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/the-solarisation-of... - June 25th, 2026 ("Pakistan deployed 27GW of distributed solar deployed in just two years, the same as all the operating coal, gas and oil plants built in Pakistan ever.")
- paulnpace 16d ago
  > oil is dead It is you who sees what you want to see. I am pointing the reality of impoverishing a significant amount of civilization as a result of removing a critical part of the world's infrastructure. My observation is your opinion is one from people who are completely isolated from the rest of civilization.
  - toomuchtodo 16d ago
    Please point to who is being impoverished. Provide citations. I have provided many, you have provided zero.
    - paulnpace 16d ago
      This is childish thinking, because as adults we have the ability to reason. Those living near impoverishment and experience large increases in price or complete unavailability of critical infrastructure will then become impoverished. Oil, notably diesel, is critical infrastructure for everyone not living in a pure state of nature or off the grid.

toomuchtodo 16d ago

You see what you want to see. I am sharing objective facts and data. Low carbon energy economics are better, oil is dead, these are facts, it is what it is. If you think you can make oil cheap again, go for it, let us know how it goes. No one is going to make it cheap for you, it is economically irrational to do so. 'Offensively cheap': solar power is looking up - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49695304 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49695304 - September 2026 The solarisation of Pakistan’s energy economy - https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/the-solarisation-of-pakistans-energy-economy/ https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/the-solarisation-of... - June 25th, 2026 ("Pakistan deployed 27GW of distributed solar deployed in just two years, the same as all the operating coal, gas and oil plants built in Pakistan ever.")

paulnpace 16d ago
> oil is dead It is you who sees what you want to see. I am pointing the reality of impoverishing a significant amount of civilization as a result of removing a critical part of the world's infrastructure. My observation is your opinion is one from people who are completely isolated from the rest of civilization.
- toomuchtodo 16d ago
  Please point to who is being impoverished. Provide citations. I have provided many, you have provided zero.
  - paulnpace 16d ago
    This is childish thinking, because as adults we have the ability to reason. Those living near impoverishment and experience large increases in price or complete unavailability of critical infrastructure will then become impoverished. Oil, notably diesel, is critical infrastructure for everyone not living in a pure state of nature or off the grid.