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>community can rearrange You're describing an improvised surgery on a living organism. Developing a complex system involving humans that is productive and does

>community can rearrange You're describing an improvised surgery on a living organism. Developing a complex system involving humans that is productive and doesn't collapse is extremely hard, so if it ain't broke don't fix it.

simianwords 16d ago
But man this is ridiculous. 25 field medalists don’t accept agency in their own community but try to push external people to change their process?? Why can’t the letter say “guys new tech dropped. We need to reorganise. Understanding is crucial” instead of asking OpenAI to change their process.
- NonHyloMorph 15d ago
  Might have to do with the circumstances of Open AIs conduct that was quite sketchy to say the least? There is 25 people who see it as their responsibility to use their status in the field of maths to weigh in on public discourse regarding that field.
  - ChickeNES 15d ago
    > Might have to do with the circumstances of Open AIs conduct that was quite sketchy to say the least? OpenAI did nothing wrong, being a Fields medalist does not give anyone a monopoly on the truth.
    - jambalaya8 15d ago
      receiving a prize for math or any other discipline doesn't even mean the person was right or truthful. just sayin'.
      - varjag 15d ago
        Fields medalists aren't made on some Fields factory. These are 25 people from different backgrounds, generations, educational institutions and countries. It's kind of incredible you guys think they decided to collude against OpenAI rather than simply addressing a concern about their field they believe is important.
        jambalaya8 15d ago
        I am aware of this. As I am aware they at times decide not to give anyone one... shrug. Mathematicians were somewhat wiser in the 1960s but the biologists and social sciences never were.
        ChickeNES 15d ago
        Never said they were colluding. I said I have no patience for incumbents asking for restrictions on a technology that threatens the value of their expertise.
        GPerson 14d ago
        That’s because you have literally no idea about anything you’re weighing in on.
      - GPerson 14d ago
        This is just fucking absurd.

simianwords 16d ago

But man this is ridiculous. 25 field medalists don’t accept agency in their own community but try to push external people to change their process?? Why can’t the letter say “guys new tech dropped. We need to reorganise. Understanding is crucial” instead of asking OpenAI to change their process.

NonHyloMorph 15d ago
Might have to do with the circumstances of Open AIs conduct that was quite sketchy to say the least? There is 25 people who see it as their responsibility to use their status in the field of maths to weigh in on public discourse regarding that field.
- ChickeNES 15d ago
  > Might have to do with the circumstances of Open AIs conduct that was quite sketchy to say the least? OpenAI did nothing wrong, being a Fields medalist does not give anyone a monopoly on the truth.
  - jambalaya8 15d ago
    receiving a prize for math or any other discipline doesn't even mean the person was right or truthful. just sayin'.
    - varjag 15d ago
      Fields medalists aren't made on some Fields factory. These are 25 people from different backgrounds, generations, educational institutions and countries. It's kind of incredible you guys think they decided to collude against OpenAI rather than simply addressing a concern about their field they believe is important.
      - jambalaya8 15d ago
        I am aware of this. As I am aware they at times decide not to give anyone one... shrug. Mathematicians were somewhat wiser in the 1960s but the biologists and social sciences never were.
      - ChickeNES 15d ago
        Never said they were colluding. I said I have no patience for incumbents asking for restrictions on a technology that threatens the value of their expertise.
        GPerson 14d ago
        That’s because you have literally no idea about anything you’re weighing in on.
    - GPerson 14d ago
      This is just fucking absurd.