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I wouldn't characterize it as "disrupted" genetics. Autism makes the world go round, if there were no autism we'd lack most of the innovations we take for grant

I wouldn't characterize it as "disrupted" genetics. Autism makes the world go round, if there were no autism we'd lack most of the innovations we take for granted today. There are other differences that can co-occur with autism to cause issues, but autism itself feels like a normal and beneficial genetic variation.

watwut 9d ago
Citation needed. Frankly, it sounds like a bullshit claim.
- LoganDark 9d ago
  In any case it feels like "disrupted" is the claim that needs citations. It's possible to study autism without treating it as inferior.
bcjdjsndon 9d ago
Have you ever spoke to parents who need to give their severely autistic child 24h care for the rest of their lives?
- LoganDark 9d ago
  Are you one? Usually that happens because of other issues, not purely autism. If you have a motor disorder, or are unable to speak, or are unable to process language etc, that can happen whether you're also autistic or not. Regardless, I never said autism can't be a disability or that autistic people can't be disabled or otherwise disordered compared to "normal". Just that I wouldn't treat autism itself as the one general problem.
  - bcjdjsndon 9d ago
    The parents of severely autistic non verbal children needing round the clock care don't consider it "a normal and beneficial genetic variation". > Just that I wouldn't treat autism itself as the general problem. You wouldn't, because you've clearly got it mild. A lot of people say they struggle in life, and that autism would explain a lot.... What about the very real possibility your simply below average? A lot of people have to be, 49% of the entire planet to be precise, so it's hardly unlikely you couldnt possibly be below average.
    - LoganDark 9d ago
      I never said being non-verbal or needing care around the clock was "a normal and beneficial genetic variation". I said those things would be a problem whether you also happen to be autistic or not. > You wouldn't, because you've clearly got it mild. This is getting into personal attacks. Back off, you don't know me. > A lot of people say they struggle in life, and that autism would explain a lot... This is completely different than what you were just talking about. I didn't even dispute this.

watwut 9d ago

Citation needed. Frankly, it sounds like a bullshit claim.

LoganDark 9d ago
In any case it feels like "disrupted" is the claim that needs citations. It's possible to study autism without treating it as inferior.

bcjdjsndon 9d ago

Have you ever spoke to parents who need to give their severely autistic child 24h care for the rest of their lives?

LoganDark 9d ago
Are you one? Usually that happens because of other issues, not purely autism. If you have a motor disorder, or are unable to speak, or are unable to process language etc, that can happen whether you're also autistic or not. Regardless, I never said autism can't be a disability or that autistic people can't be disabled or otherwise disordered compared to "normal". Just that I wouldn't treat autism itself as the one general problem.
- bcjdjsndon 9d ago
  The parents of severely autistic non verbal children needing round the clock care don't consider it "a normal and beneficial genetic variation". > Just that I wouldn't treat autism itself as the general problem. You wouldn't, because you've clearly got it mild. A lot of people say they struggle in life, and that autism would explain a lot.... What about the very real possibility your simply below average? A lot of people have to be, 49% of the entire planet to be precise, so it's hardly unlikely you couldnt possibly be below average.
  - LoganDark 9d ago
    I never said being non-verbal or needing care around the clock was "a normal and beneficial genetic variation". I said those things would be a problem whether you also happen to be autistic or not. > You wouldn't, because you've clearly got it mild. This is getting into personal attacks. Back off, you don't know me. > A lot of people say they struggle in life, and that autism would explain a lot... This is completely different than what you were just talking about. I didn't even dispute this.