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Sadly after 22 years, it's still considered a "high-end" feature. Even on $1600 Fujifilm x100vi, there is still single SD slot.

dsego 17d ago
I also have the same fuji. Digital cameras are still in the stone ages. I think Tony Northrup covered it well. Nothing has changed since digital cameras came to market, the workflow is still the same, copy files from a card to PC. They aren't connected to the internet, they don't have automatic syncing to cloud for backups or sharing, fuji doesn't even have a gps chip built in to store the location (only works if connected to a smartphone), they can't be locked via fingerprint scanner. It's all tech from 25 years ago.
- podocarp 17d ago
  In some senses it's good. That feature list just says "use a smartphone then". No thank you. It's everything that a camera should not be. GPS is useful, but not wifi. I don't need my camera becoming another IOT always online telemetry device. They're one of the few electronic devices built to last. Imagine needing fingerprint unlock on a camera, and for what? Prevent others from viewing your photos? Changing your settings? Also copy from card to pc is the best possible workflow. Imagine cameras like smartphone with no expandable storage. Stop giving these people ideas! I am now very afraid they will listen to this guy since he actually has a follower base.
  - justsomehnguy 17d ago
    > Also copy from card to pc is the best possible workflow So turn off the camera, open the memory card slot cover which is flimsy 1mm prong, eject the card, insert it in the reader (if you have SD reader) or fiddle the microSD first from the convertor and then insert, copy, (insert microSD to SD convertor), open up slot cover, insert the card. Surely beats just connecting the camera to the WiFi (which it does have anyway) and downloading through SMB. Suuure. S9900 from 15 years ago had a built-in GPS receiver (and absolutely unneeded and never updated POI system). P1100 needs a smartphone for GPS for whatever reason - and app doesn't work 5 times from 5. But the latter is on me, I knew what I would get when I bought Nikon.
  - iririririr 17d ago
    why do you assume a functionality will obligatory be abused against the client? pro camera manufacturers are not google or apple. Have we became that defeatist?
    - GTP 16d ago
      Unfortunately, your comment reminds me that car manufactures aren't Google or Apple either, and still it seems that modern, high-end cars have a tendency of collecting more than what's needed for the car to remain in good shape or be diagnosed. I guess we became so defeatist when more and more companies started realizing they could make extra profit by collecting data from their customers.
      - iririririr 16d ago
        Of course they are google and apple. They are in an even more monopolisticaly and gov enabled market! just look at the chinese import ban on both mobile phones and cars!
  - justsomehnguy 16d ago
    Looks like someone is hurt in the SD card slot, hah.
- t0bia_s 17d ago
  Windows OS is also stone age. There is no simple way to list all user data, or user edited system data for simple backup in readable format. Btw X100F has Wi-Fi and automated file transfer to PC. But it is faster to transfer it via SD card.
- Gigachad 17d ago
  Cameras had gps for a moment but they all dropped it because it sucks. GPS takes a long time to get a fix so unless you want to turn the camera on and sit for 5 minutes before taking the photo, it doesn’t work. Meanwhile an app on your phone can ping the current location to the camera for free. Your phone always has a location lock and it’s super power efficient at getting it. And the rest of it is essentially features for a market that doesn’t exist. People buying cameras today don’t want to send straight to Facebook. They want to sort through raws, edit in Lightroom and then post from a laptop. The market for the features you want all moves to phones long ago. Sony also has a bunch of the features you are asking for. It can connect to the internet and live sync files to an ftp server. It can even upload proxy videos so your editors can start work before you get back to copy the master copy over. Cameras are sold to prosumers and actual professionals now so the featureset reflects it.
  - mrheosuper 17d ago
    > People buying cameras today don’t want to send straight to Facebook. Pretty sure that's the main point of Fuji camera, the output and built it filter is decent enough that you can upload to Social network without any editing.
    - Gigachad 16d ago
      I'd think even the JPEG shooters still prefer to sort through the results on a computer and don't need to fire off instagram posts direct from the camera. At any rate, most cameras these days have a companion app that let you grab the photos from your phone without pulling out an SD card.
  - dsego 15d ago
    > Your phone always has a location lock and it’s super power efficient at getting it. So why can't cameras do it? They are the same form factor, could be a feature to enable. My smart garmin instinct can track gps for a day, and it's a tiny sportswatch.
    - Gigachad 13d ago
- GTP 16d ago
  In case this eases your pain, there exists SD cards with integrated WiFi for ease of data transfer.
- publlus_enigma 16d ago
  I actually prefer this workflow, although GPS would be a nice addition.

dsego 17d ago

I also have the same fuji. Digital cameras are still in the stone ages. I think Tony Northrup covered it well. Nothing has changed since digital cameras came to market, the workflow is still the same, copy files from a card to PC. They aren't connected to the internet, they don't have automatic syncing to cloud for backups or sharing, fuji doesn't even have a gps chip built in to store the location (only works if connected to a smartphone), they can't be locked via fingerprint scanner. It's all tech from 25 years ago.

podocarp 17d ago
In some senses it's good. That feature list just says "use a smartphone then". No thank you. It's everything that a camera should not be. GPS is useful, but not wifi. I don't need my camera becoming another IOT always online telemetry device. They're one of the few electronic devices built to last. Imagine needing fingerprint unlock on a camera, and for what? Prevent others from viewing your photos? Changing your settings? Also copy from card to pc is the best possible workflow. Imagine cameras like smartphone with no expandable storage. Stop giving these people ideas! I am now very afraid they will listen to this guy since he actually has a follower base.
- justsomehnguy 17d ago
  > Also copy from card to pc is the best possible workflow So turn off the camera, open the memory card slot cover which is flimsy 1mm prong, eject the card, insert it in the reader (if you have SD reader) or fiddle the microSD first from the convertor and then insert, copy, (insert microSD to SD convertor), open up slot cover, insert the card. Surely beats just connecting the camera to the WiFi (which it does have anyway) and downloading through SMB. Suuure. S9900 from 15 years ago had a built-in GPS receiver (and absolutely unneeded and never updated POI system). P1100 needs a smartphone for GPS for whatever reason - and app doesn't work 5 times from 5. But the latter is on me, I knew what I would get when I bought Nikon.
- iririririr 17d ago
  why do you assume a functionality will obligatory be abused against the client? pro camera manufacturers are not google or apple. Have we became that defeatist?
  - GTP 16d ago
    Unfortunately, your comment reminds me that car manufactures aren't Google or Apple either, and still it seems that modern, high-end cars have a tendency of collecting more than what's needed for the car to remain in good shape or be diagnosed. I guess we became so defeatist when more and more companies started realizing they could make extra profit by collecting data from their customers.
    - iririririr 16d ago
      Of course they are google and apple. They are in an even more monopolisticaly and gov enabled market! just look at the chinese import ban on both mobile phones and cars!
- justsomehnguy 16d ago
  Looks like someone is hurt in the SD card slot, hah.
t0bia_s 17d ago
Windows OS is also stone age. There is no simple way to list all user data, or user edited system data for simple backup in readable format. Btw X100F has Wi-Fi and automated file transfer to PC. But it is faster to transfer it via SD card.
Gigachad 17d ago
Cameras had gps for a moment but they all dropped it because it sucks. GPS takes a long time to get a fix so unless you want to turn the camera on and sit for 5 minutes before taking the photo, it doesn’t work. Meanwhile an app on your phone can ping the current location to the camera for free. Your phone always has a location lock and it’s super power efficient at getting it. And the rest of it is essentially features for a market that doesn’t exist. People buying cameras today don’t want to send straight to Facebook. They want to sort through raws, edit in Lightroom and then post from a laptop. The market for the features you want all moves to phones long ago. Sony also has a bunch of the features you are asking for. It can connect to the internet and live sync files to an ftp server. It can even upload proxy videos so your editors can start work before you get back to copy the master copy over. Cameras are sold to prosumers and actual professionals now so the featureset reflects it.
- mrheosuper 17d ago
  > People buying cameras today don’t want to send straight to Facebook. Pretty sure that's the main point of Fuji camera, the output and built it filter is decent enough that you can upload to Social network without any editing.
  - Gigachad 16d ago
    I'd think even the JPEG shooters still prefer to sort through the results on a computer and don't need to fire off instagram posts direct from the camera. At any rate, most cameras these days have a companion app that let you grab the photos from your phone without pulling out an SD card.
- dsego 15d ago
  > Your phone always has a location lock and it’s super power efficient at getting it. So why can't cameras do it? They are the same form factor, could be a feature to enable. My smart garmin instinct can track gps for a day, and it's a tiny sportswatch.
  - Gigachad 13d ago
GTP 16d ago
In case this eases your pain, there exists SD cards with integrated WiFi for ease of data transfer.
publlus_enigma 16d ago
I actually prefer this workflow, although GPS would be a nice addition.