I agree - don't get me wrong, I can see the value of stuff like HAML, but my experience of using it is that a lot of the time it saves is outweighed by the extr

I agree - don't get me wrong, I can see the value of stuff like HAML, but my experience of using it is that a lot of the time it saves is outweighed by the extra time spent trying to debug the extra abstraction layer.