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"...Golden Gate needed a whopping 17GB more space on the M1 MacBook Air, thanks to a mandatory multi-gigabyte language model download that kicks in automaticall
by ProfessorLayton 18d ago
"...Golden Gate needed a whopping 17GB more space on the M1 MacBook Air, thanks to a mandatory multi-gigabyte language model download that kicks in automatically the first time you connect a freshly restored Golden Gate Mac to the Internet."
This is the main thing stopping me from updating iOS/macOS. It's completely unacceptable to park a bunch of space on my devices right when that storage is at its most expensive it's ever been.
My phone is on iOS 26, and even with Apple Intelligence turned off, there's ~13GB made unusable. My phone ran out of space while recording a bike trip, and yet the model I have no use for remained.
- rylando 18d agoSame. It feels pretty messed up to lose that much storage on a 256gb device.
- drop_star 18d agoYou can always buy more iCloud storage!!!
- NetOpWibby 17d agoServices! Customer sat!
- DrPhish 18d agoYes, the disrespect Apple/Google/MS has for their users (on equipment they have purchased!) is palpable. They seem to have a real sense of entitlement these days. It used to be universally accepted that losing or corrupting user data was a (if not THE) cardinal sin in development. In many ways we get what we tolerate, but the lack of viable alternatives in some spaces (esp cellphones and TVs) makes it very hard to hold the big players to any kind of account economically. At least no one is holding a gun to our heads to use MacOS or other proprietary systems on our desktops/laptops/servers for the most part.
- wronglebowski 18d ago17GB when a large majority of the devices sold for it shipped with 128GB of storage is wild. You should be able to opt out of it during install.
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- drooopy 18d agoIf there is no way to remove this 17 GB model, then the OS is simply not for me anymore. I'll stick with Sequoia for another year and use it until it stops receiving security updates and then I'm back to being a full-time Linux user.
- teaearlgraycold 18d ago> right when that storage is at its most expensive it's ever been. How easily we forget the exponential improvements of decades past...
- sharts 17d agoPhones should have separate storage for their OS so that when you buy a specific phone with specific storage it actually is that much storage available to the user
- grishka 17d agoAndroid used to work kinda like that. You got the system partition that's a fixed size, and that's it. You also had the data partition for apps and their data on the same internal flash. For everything else, you inserted a micro SD card. You could move some apps to the SD card as well.
- samtheprogram 17d agoMaybe macOS 26 was lot bigger... but I went straight from Sequoia to Golden Gate and freed up like 30 GBs. I didn't have enough disk space to download the update prior, so the extra 30 GB wasn't that... but could've been caches I guess. I assumed it was dropping Intel?
- als0 17d agoHow does battery life compare to Sequoia? I heard there is a huge drop
- nexus6 17d agoThere’s always some claiming this after any iOS/MacOS update only for it to quietly disappear until the next upgrade.
- samtheprogram 16d agoUnfortunately I don't know yet because I updated for Xcode 27 + iPhone dev, so having an iPhone plugged in 24/7 is heavily spewing the results towards "much worse". If I can still reply mid-to-late next week I'll let you know.
- quantumwannabe 17d agoThe real problem with iOS is that there’s no way to clear an app’s cache without uninstalling it. Every non-indie internet-connected app on my phone has a massive and unneeded cache that consumes gigabytes of space.
- robotresearcher 17d ago> when that storage is at its most expensive it's ever been. Most expensive it's been for a handful of years. 1TB of spinny disk cost a million dollars as recently as 1994, and half a billion dollars in 1980. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/historical-cost-of-computer-memory-and-storage https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/historical-cost-of-comput...
- nvme0n1p1 17d agoYeah, and a pound of sugar cost 8oz of gold a few thousand years ago, so inflation isn't real and food insecurity is a myth. If you want a fair comparison you should look at the price of storage at the capacity required for typical contemporaneous workloads. Don't quote numbers in the billions when that amount of storage didn't exist on the entire planet at the time.
- robotresearcher 17d agoNo one claimed those things you’re arguing against. The claim is simply that storage has never been more expensive. A Macintosh 128K with a FLOPPY DRIVE cost $7,500 in inflation adjusted dollars. Can we please take a view of today that’s in a context of more than a few years? It would really help perspective sometimes.
- nirava 17d agothis is pointless pedantry. there's an implicit "functionally equivalent, for modern (apple) devices" bit. > It would really help perspective sometimes It objectively and absolutely doesn't help this discussion at all. Even if taken as hyperbole, the frustration with Apple charging $200 for 256 added gigs, and filling up ~20gigs of it without consent or requirement, is unaffected by floppy prices in the 80s.
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- GeekyBear 17d agoThen Chrome will download an additional 4 Gig AI file just for itself.