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I'm starting to explore alternative options because Claude has become an awful value proposition. Any suggestions?

by throwaway2027 10d ago

fidotron 10d ago
I turned off Anthropic properly and switched all of that over to OpenAI yesterday. (I use other models for other things too, especially DeepSeek in Pi). Honestly aside from the voice it uses you wouldn't notice a difference. Switching costs are low, vote with your wallet.
- georgeburdell 10d ago
  So you voted for Kodos instead of Kang [1]. Local models are the way out of the rug pulling [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BUAnyVAanac&ra=m https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BUAnyVAanac&ra=m
  - fidotron 10d ago
    I don't actually disagree, and advocate that for now the thing to do is use both. You need to use frontier models to understand where the puck is going, but also to use local ones for anything remotely sensitive.
- KronisLV 10d ago
  > I turned off Anthropic properly and switched all of that over to OpenAI yesterday. Same, just a while longer ago. I much prefer how OpenAI models write to Anthropic's, will probably revisit Anthropic in a generation or two. Context size is more limited, but no critical forgetfulness due to compaction so far, though I also like having plan files around both for future reference and improving chances of success at long form work. Also tried out Kimi K3, was nice but slow (and apparently routed some requests to Claude anyways), GLM 5.3 was faster and still pretty good but the token allowances were kinda limited.
- rfgplk 10d ago
  OpenAI is a better value proposition too because they give you effectively infinite image generation + chat usage, which is separate from work/codex.
myaccountonhn 10d ago
Opencode Go.
gizmodo59 10d ago
codex (their app) is pretty good and lots of banked resets, luna is cost effective and Astra seems better than Fable for many tasks. Most important one is less refusals and I can use it the way I want without the fear of getting banned. I do like Claude Code a lot when it comes to pure coding use cases but the work often touches outside code and I don't want to keep switching
- cruffle_duffle 10d ago
  > I do like Claude Code a lot when it comes to pure coding use cases The harness is great, but opus is such an arrogant little prick that spews out unintelligible word salad. Opus 5 is so bad at communication it amazes me that somebody green-lit it. It's absolutely awful. The fact that this isn't an acknowledged regression (and Fable 5.1 isn't much better) leads me to believe that people at Anthropic actually like Opus 5's output.
irregularbowels 10d ago
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rfgplk 10d ago
Of the major providers, Codex/Astra. By far the highest quality model, especially for cross-discipline work.
jiri 10d ago
I would like to have alternative to chat - model and provider agnostic (BYOK), but with history, project, maybe memory, with good search and quality tools. I know openwebui and i dont want to host it.

I'm starting to explore alternative options because Claude has become an awful value proposition. Any suggestions?

I turned off Anthropic properly and switched all of that over to OpenAI yesterday. (I use other models for other things too, especially DeepSeek in Pi). Honestly aside from the voice it uses you wouldn't notice a difference. Switching costs are low, vote with your wallet.

georgeburdell 10d ago
So you voted for Kodos instead of Kang [1]. Local models are the way out of the rug pulling [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BUAnyVAanac&ra=m https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BUAnyVAanac&ra=m
- fidotron 10d ago
  I don't actually disagree, and advocate that for now the thing to do is use both. You need to use frontier models to understand where the puck is going, but also to use local ones for anything remotely sensitive.
KronisLV 10d ago
> I turned off Anthropic properly and switched all of that over to OpenAI yesterday. Same, just a while longer ago. I much prefer how OpenAI models write to Anthropic's, will probably revisit Anthropic in a generation or two. Context size is more limited, but no critical forgetfulness due to compaction so far, though I also like having plan files around both for future reference and improving chances of success at long form work. Also tried out Kimi K3, was nice but slow (and apparently routed some requests to Claude anyways), GLM 5.3 was faster and still pretty good but the token allowances were kinda limited.
rfgplk 10d ago
OpenAI is a better value proposition too because they give you effectively infinite image generation + chat usage, which is separate from work/codex.

myaccountonhn 10d ago

Opencode Go.

gizmodo59 10d ago

codex (their app) is pretty good and lots of banked resets, luna is cost effective and Astra seems better than Fable for many tasks. Most important one is less refusals and I can use it the way I want without the fear of getting banned. I do like Claude Code a lot when it comes to pure coding use cases but the work often touches outside code and I don't want to keep switching

cruffle_duffle 10d ago
> I do like Claude Code a lot when it comes to pure coding use cases The harness is great, but opus is such an arrogant little prick that spews out unintelligible word salad. Opus 5 is so bad at communication it amazes me that somebody green-lit it. It's absolutely awful. The fact that this isn't an acknowledged regression (and Fable 5.1 isn't much better) leads me to believe that people at Anthropic actually like Opus 5's output.

irregularbowels 10d ago

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rfgplk 10d ago

Of the major providers, Codex/Astra. By far the highest quality model, especially for cross-discipline work.

jiri 10d ago

I would like to have alternative to chat - model and provider agnostic (BYOK), but with history, project, maybe memory, with good search and quality tools. I know openwebui and i dont want to host it.