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This is a strawman. Suleyman is not arguing that the human brain cannot be replicated. LLMs are nothing like human brains. Cargo-culting consciousness is not re
by causal 10d ago
This is a strawman. Suleyman is not arguing that the human brain cannot be replicated. LLMs are nothing like human brains. Cargo-culting consciousness is not replicating the brain, not even a tiny bit.
- addag 10d agoI'd argue back that using the substrate as a reason why there should not be consciousness seems quite weak. A competing thesis is that what matters is the emergent properties, whatever the support is. So far it has been true for some really high-level tasks - writing coherent text, programing, following instructions, analyzing images... I do not see why the substrate argument would work specifically for consciousness - i.e I would believe it only if I see strong evidence of it.
- causal 10d agoMy response was to a comment appealing to brain reconstruction. My point is that a brain may be reconstructed, but LLMs do nothing of the sort. Substrate was never the point.
- roryirvine 10d agoCephalopod and decapod brains aren't much like human brains either, yet it's still reasonable to regard them as being sentient and worthy of protection from unnecessary suffering.
- causal 10d agoThey have a lot more in common with humans than LLMs have with either. Complexity is not evidence of consciousness.