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It's 2026, with cleaner high ISOs even in phone sized sensors giving the ability to raise the shutter speed as needed, we hadn't had much of an issue with blurr

by coldtea 10d ago

It's 2026, with cleaner high ISOs even in phone sized sensors giving the ability to raise the shutter speed as needed, we hadn't had much of an issue with blurry photos for a decade now, with or without OIS. There have been several expensive cameras with no OIS, like Ricoh GR and (and v2), or ZVE10 (and v2). It's video where people care about these days. Does anybody complain about blurry S12 photos?

rickdeckard 10d ago
Might be boring, but in 2026 "clean high ISOs" in phone-sized sensors mainly comes from image post-processing (stuff like multi-frame merging is done even when shooting "RAW"). Post-processing requires a stable (albeit noisy) image, otherwise it'll be garbage-in/garbage-out. --> OIS actually became MORE important for Smartphones in the past years, because while post-processing produces better and better results, it massively depends on usable input data. OIS is one of the very few methods to improve the INPUT-quality for post-processing. >"There have been several expensive cameras with no OIS, like Ricoh GR and (and v2), or ZVE10 (and v2)." That's a apples and oranges comparison. A quick Google search tells me the size of a pixel on the Ricoh GR sensor is 4.81 µm, which is ~8 times larger than the pixel in recent smartphones (~0,6µm). It is not only physically capable to capture 8x more light, it is also much less affected by minor shaking than sensors with smaller pixel-sizes. >"Does anybody complain about blurry S12 photos?" Not sure what's a "S12", but: - On flagship phones with OIS: Not so much. Maybe in low-light scenarios, because, you know, not much light... - On cheaper devices without OIS: Yes! Oh yes, constantly. People assume that the picture-quality of a e.g. 2026 Galaxy A16 must be comparable or better than the picture of a 8-year old Galaxy S9. It's not, the S9 is still better in everyday shooting. Just check user-reviews of mass-tier smartphones without OIS, like Samsung Galaxy A series...

by coldtea 10d ago

rickdeckard 10d ago

Might be boring, but in 2026 "clean high ISOs" in phone-sized sensors mainly comes from image post-processing (stuff like multi-frame merging is done even when shooting "RAW"). Post-processing requires a stable (albeit noisy) image, otherwise it'll be garbage-in/garbage-out. --> OIS actually became MORE important for Smartphones in the past years, because while post-processing produces better and better results, it massively depends on usable input data. OIS is one of the very few methods to improve the INPUT-quality for post-processing. >"There have been several expensive cameras with no OIS, like Ricoh GR and (and v2), or ZVE10 (and v2)." That's a apples and oranges comparison. A quick Google search tells me the size of a pixel on the Ricoh GR sensor is 4.81 µm, which is ~8 times larger than the pixel in recent smartphones (~0,6µm). It is not only physically capable to capture 8x more light, it is also much less affected by minor shaking than sensors with smaller pixel-sizes. >"Does anybody complain about blurry S12 photos?" Not sure what's a "S12", but: - On flagship phones with OIS: Not so much. Maybe in low-light scenarios, because, you know, not much light... - On cheaper devices without OIS: Yes! Oh yes, constantly. People assume that the picture-quality of a e.g. 2026 Galaxy A16 must be comparable or better than the picture of a 8-year old Galaxy S9. It's not, the S9 is still better in everyday shooting. Just check user-reviews of mass-tier smartphones without OIS, like Samsung Galaxy A series...