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Anyway, people don't really consider consciousness when it comes to welfare. I'm pretty sure animals are conscious, and look at factory farming. The key variab
by optimalsolver 10d ago
Anyway, people don't really consider consciousness when it comes to welfare. I'm pretty sure animals are conscious, and look at factory farming.
The key variable people consider is: Can this thing harm me back?
- collingreen 10d agoEven that is rarely the deciding factor (people harm dangerous animals for fun). Seems as simple as "will this action bring social shame/criticism" for any individual decision.
- thewebguyd 10d ago> Can this thing harm me back? We extend moral considerations or legal protections to beings that have zero capacity to harm us back, though. The inability to fight back is the reason a lot of welfare protections exist in the first place. That aside, if (and that's a really big if) we end up with a model that is sentient, as in has the capacity to suffer, using factory farming as justification to ignore model welfare is just admitting we intend to repeat the same abject moral failure again in the name of economic convenience. I hope that we won't, but humans love cheap meat, and will probably love cheap intelligence as well.
- pixl97 10d agoSo many people post things like "Why would the AI want to kill us" Girllllll, have you looked at us, of course they will, we're bastards.