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> This is the other part: if associate membership is a thing then won't half of the EU start thinking that's their future? Presumably by "half of the EU" you m

> This is the other part: if associate membership is a thing then won't half of the EU start thinking that's their future? Presumably by "half of the EU" you mean (sometimes) euro-sceptic states like Hungary or Poland? Well, these are not in EU because some illuminati/lizard people tricked them into joining and now won't allow them to leave, like some of their politicians would like you to believe, but because they enjoy billions of subsidies per year.

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fidotron 17d ago
There is a strong case that much of the eastern bloc were tricked into joining, by the UK, in order to weaken the Franco-German efforts for ever closer union. This was even a joke in the UK at the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYqB0uTKlE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYqB0uTKlE
- lII1lIlI11ll 17d ago
  Could you elaborate regarding how exactly were eastern bloc countries "tricked" into joining by the UK? And what prevents them from leaving now that the tricksters from UK have long since left themselves?
  - fidotron 17d ago
    I refer you to the video as to the why and how, keeping in mind that's before the Berlin Wall came down. The Brits have a habit of only telling you the precise truth when they think you think they're joking.
    - lII1lIlI11ll 17d ago
      A clip from a comedic fiction TV series? So much for a "strong case to be made"...
  - whywhywhywhy 17d ago
    > the tricksters from UK have long since left themselves? This wasn’t intentional of the people who started the cogs turning, it was meant to be an empty gesture to get elected, no one expected it to actually pass.
ricardobayes 17d ago
I would like to make a slight correction: the hungarian public opinion was never, ever euro-sceptic. This was one of the major reason the previous government was voted out, because they didn't reflect the will of the people. Opinion polls regularly poll 70-80% of EU approval despite being decade-long propaganda trying to change peoples' minds, making Hungary de facto one of the most pro-EU countries in EU.

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fidotron 17d ago

There is a strong case that much of the eastern bloc were tricked into joining, by the UK, in order to weaken the Franco-German efforts for ever closer union. This was even a joke in the UK at the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYqB0uTKlE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYqB0uTKlE

lII1lIlI11ll 17d ago
Could you elaborate regarding how exactly were eastern bloc countries "tricked" into joining by the UK? And what prevents them from leaving now that the tricksters from UK have long since left themselves?
- fidotron 17d ago
  I refer you to the video as to the why and how, keeping in mind that's before the Berlin Wall came down. The Brits have a habit of only telling you the precise truth when they think you think they're joking.
  - lII1lIlI11ll 17d ago
    A clip from a comedic fiction TV series? So much for a "strong case to be made"...
- whywhywhywhy 17d ago
  > the tricksters from UK have long since left themselves? This wasn’t intentional of the people who started the cogs turning, it was meant to be an empty gesture to get elected, no one expected it to actually pass.

ricardobayes 17d ago

I would like to make a slight correction: the hungarian public opinion was never, ever euro-sceptic. This was one of the major reason the previous government was voted out, because they didn't reflect the will of the people. Opinion polls regularly poll 70-80% of EU approval despite being decade-long propaganda trying to change peoples' minds, making Hungary de facto one of the most pro-EU countries in EU.