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AFAIK Charles III is the monarch both for UK and Canada. Doesn't this mean that Canada is, in a certain degree, dependent of UK?

afavour 19d ago
No, he’s just the monarch of two different countries simultaneously.
singpolyma3 19d ago
No. We have our own monarch who happens to be the same human is all
- foobarian 19d ago
  So it's like two kubernetes pods happen to run on the same node.
  - Intermernet 19d ago
    More like a bunch of CNAMES pointing to a single record, but in this case the CNAMEs all start with "charlesv3".
graemep 19d ago
No. He is separately the monarch of the UK and Canada. You could just as well argue that the UK is dependent on Canada for that reason.
- thaumasiotes 19d ago
  You could, but it might be difficult to hear yourself over the explosive laughter of everybody around you. Which country would you say has a closer relationship with the King of England?
  - triceratops 19d ago
    Which country would you say has a closer relationship with the King of Canada?
    - thaumasiotes 19d ago
      England, which is why he's called the King of England and never called the King of Canada.
      - bryanlarsen 19d ago
        His title is "His Majesty Charles the Third, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories King, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith" but he can claim many others. In Canada he is announced as King of Canada.
        graemep 19d ago
        Yes, and he is also: "Charles the Third, by the Grace of God King of Canada and His other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titles_and_honours_of_Charles_III https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titles_and_honours_of_...
      - triceratops 19d ago
        They call him the King of England when he's in Canada? Or when he represents Canada abroad? Where exactly are you getting your information from? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada#Royal_presence_and_duties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada#Royal_prese...
      - amiga386 19d ago
        There is no King of England. Charles III is King of the United Kingdom, and all places within. The UK does not have a King of England any more than they have a King of Scunthorpe or a King of North Piddle. The last King of England was William of Orange, who died in 1702 and was succeeded by Anne, who was the last Queen of England. The Act of Union 1707 merged the Kingdom of Scotland and Kingdom of England into a single successor state, the Kingdom of Great Britain. In 1801 that became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and in 1922 became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
amiga386 19d ago
Let me introduce you to the Commonwealth of Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations These countries choose voluntarily to hold ties with the UK, and each other, and some accept the UK's monarch as nominal head of state, but don't be mistaken; they are all fully independent countries. Some are republics, some are kingdoms with their own monarch. They value each other's friendship, shared values and heritage, but they're not beholden to the UK or each other.
monkeywork 19d ago
No - it means that Charles III is an independent monarch for two separate nations. The monarchy is 99% ceremonial in Canada but it's important to note that the Canadian Crown isn't the UK Crown... Canada is not a dependent of the UK in anyway, simply the person that wears the Crowns is the same person. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada >the Crown has had both a shared and a separate character: the sovereign's role as monarch of Canada has been distinct from their position as monarch of any other realm,[n 4][16][65][66][67] including the United Kingdom.[n 6][69][70][71][72] Only Canadian federal ministers of the Crown may advise the sovereign on any and all matters of the Canadian state,[n 7][70][73][74][75][76][77] of which the sovereign, when not in Canada, is kept abreast by weekly communications with the federal viceroy.[78] The monarchy thus ceased to be an exclusively British institution and, in Canada, became a Canadian,[40][79][80][81] or "domesticated",[82] establishment, though it is still often denoted as "British" in both legal and common language,[40] for reasons historical, political, and of convenience.
- Gravityloss 19d ago
  I guess if going in the UK gets tough the royals could move somewhere else to reign. Sigismund was king of Sweden and Poland, though he couldn't maintain both. Maybe we'd need some drama with usurpers and uncles and so on to keep the populace entertained. Without the civil war part...
  - scosman 19d ago
    Oh, Canada wouldn't actually welcome a local monarch. Ceremonial across a sea... sure, why not. A King moving to our shores, nope.
- bryanlarsen 19d ago
  It's not just theoretical -- IIUC, if Charles, William and George get hit by the same bus, Charlotte would become Queen of the UK while Louis would become King of Canada. I'm sure that in that scenario Canada would quickly update their primogeniture laws to give Charlotte primacy over her younger brother, but at the moment the primogeniture laws of the two countries are different.
cmiles8 19d ago
No, it’s like Elon. He happens to be CEO of multiple companies but they are separate and independent companies (for now).

afavour 19d ago

No, he’s just the monarch of two different countries simultaneously.

singpolyma3 19d ago

No. We have our own monarch who happens to be the same human is all

foobarian 19d ago
So it's like two kubernetes pods happen to run on the same node.
- Intermernet 19d ago
  More like a bunch of CNAMES pointing to a single record, but in this case the CNAMEs all start with "charlesv3".

graemep 19d ago

No. He is separately the monarch of the UK and Canada. You could just as well argue that the UK is dependent on Canada for that reason.

thaumasiotes 19d ago
You could, but it might be difficult to hear yourself over the explosive laughter of everybody around you. Which country would you say has a closer relationship with the King of England?
- triceratops 19d ago
  Which country would you say has a closer relationship with the King of Canada?
  - thaumasiotes 19d ago
    England, which is why he's called the King of England and never called the King of Canada.
    - bryanlarsen 19d ago
      His title is "His Majesty Charles the Third, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of His other Realms and Territories King, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith" but he can claim many others. In Canada he is announced as King of Canada.
      - graemep 19d ago
        Yes, and he is also: "Charles the Third, by the Grace of God King of Canada and His other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titles_and_honours_of_Charles_III https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_titles_and_honours_of_...
    - triceratops 19d ago
      They call him the King of England when he's in Canada? Or when he represents Canada abroad? Where exactly are you getting your information from? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada#Royal_presence_and_duties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada#Royal_prese...
    - amiga386 19d ago
      There is no King of England. Charles III is King of the United Kingdom, and all places within. The UK does not have a King of England any more than they have a King of Scunthorpe or a King of North Piddle. The last King of England was William of Orange, who died in 1702 and was succeeded by Anne, who was the last Queen of England. The Act of Union 1707 merged the Kingdom of Scotland and Kingdom of England into a single successor state, the Kingdom of Great Britain. In 1801 that became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and in 1922 became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

amiga386 19d ago

Let me introduce you to the Commonwealth of Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations These countries choose voluntarily to hold ties with the UK, and each other, and some accept the UK's monarch as nominal head of state, but don't be mistaken; they are all fully independent countries. Some are republics, some are kingdoms with their own monarch. They value each other's friendship, shared values and heritage, but they're not beholden to the UK or each other.

monkeywork 19d ago

No - it means that Charles III is an independent monarch for two separate nations. The monarchy is 99% ceremonial in Canada but it's important to note that the Canadian Crown isn't the UK Crown... Canada is not a dependent of the UK in anyway, simply the person that wears the Crowns is the same person. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada >the Crown has had both a shared and a separate character: the sovereign's role as monarch of Canada has been distinct from their position as monarch of any other realm,[n 4][16][65][66][67] including the United Kingdom.[n 6][69][70][71][72] Only Canadian federal ministers of the Crown may advise the sovereign on any and all matters of the Canadian state,[n 7][70][73][74][75][76][77] of which the sovereign, when not in Canada, is kept abreast by weekly communications with the federal viceroy.[78] The monarchy thus ceased to be an exclusively British institution and, in Canada, became a Canadian,[40][79][80][81] or "domesticated",[82] establishment, though it is still often denoted as "British" in both legal and common language,[40] for reasons historical, political, and of convenience.

Gravityloss 19d ago
I guess if going in the UK gets tough the royals could move somewhere else to reign. Sigismund was king of Sweden and Poland, though he couldn't maintain both. Maybe we'd need some drama with usurpers and uncles and so on to keep the populace entertained. Without the civil war part...
- scosman 19d ago
  Oh, Canada wouldn't actually welcome a local monarch. Ceremonial across a sea... sure, why not. A King moving to our shores, nope.
bryanlarsen 19d ago
It's not just theoretical -- IIUC, if Charles, William and George get hit by the same bus, Charlotte would become Queen of the UK while Louis would become King of Canada. I'm sure that in that scenario Canada would quickly update their primogeniture laws to give Charlotte primacy over her younger brother, but at the moment the primogeniture laws of the two countries are different.

cmiles8 19d ago

No, it’s like Elon. He happens to be CEO of multiple companies but they are separate and independent companies (for now).