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This is an absolute nonsense. Any frontier model can implement chess program from scratch - modeling the board, checking legality, etc. If you asked e.g. GPT-6
by killerstorm 19d ago
This is an absolute nonsense. Any frontier model can implement chess program from scratch - modeling the board, checking legality, etc. If you asked e.g. GPT-6 to get good at chess and gave it a computer, it will get good at chess. That's an actual strategic skill.
Asking GPT to play chess directly using its reasoning only tests its reasoning ability to model chess state. Which it really is NOT optimized for.
This is also true for humans - people who don't have years of chess training can't really tell which moves are legal given an algebraic notation transcript. These people might have good strategic skills in different areas. Chess is just a very, very specific skill
- roenxi 19d agoIt's an interesting puzzle, isn't it. On the one hand, the AIs are no good at playing Chess. However, on the other hand, if you ask an AI to win a game of chess it has all the tools on hand to compete at the same level as Stockfish - it can re-implement an engine and even probably has a GPU on hand to train its own neural nets. So should we say that the AI can play chess well, or that it cannot?
- tired-turtle 19d agoIs it, though? If you design and build a winning F1 race car, did you also win the race? Recent discourse around AI seems to conflate the semantics of winning: 1. you contributed to the win vs 2. you yourself were the winning driver.
- roenxi 18d agoBut the human would have to get extra hardware to do that. The AI isn't bringing in any resources it doesn't already have access to.
- kbau 19d agoI can compile stockfish from source and use it to beat other kids in my class in chess. Behold, I am a chess genius.