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One could argue that it is European by founding and history though. Founded by Europeans, still mostly populated by people of European ancestry, with laws writ

by vrganj 10d ago

One could argue that it is European by founding and history though. Founded by Europeans, still mostly populated by people of European ancestry, with laws written by Europeans and based on European ideas. European isn't just a geographic descriptor :-)

ocd 10d ago
I suppose. America is a much more mixed bag, while Canada at its core is still British, Scottish, and French. Enough cities have a certain sterile and organized appearance more common in Europe than the US. Not sure how else I'd describe it, but maybe Canada is a bit more "monolithic"?
- david-gpu 10d ago
  > Canada at its core is still British, Scottish, and French Have you been to Canada any time in the past few decades? Around half of the population of Toronto, Canada's largest city, is foreign-born. And I promise you it is not predominantly British or French people.
  - ocd 10d ago
    Yes, I'm from here. Toronto is not a reflection of an entire country, and I would not compare Manhattan or a foreign military base as representative of the rest of another country either.
    - david-gpu 10d ago
      Here are two quotes from Statistics Canada, to provide some food for thought. "In 2021, more than 8.3 million people, or almost one-quarter (23.0%) of the population, were, or had ever been, a landed immigrant or permanent resident in Canada. [...] Just under 6.4 million people born in Canada had at least one foreign-born parent in 2021, representing 17.6% of the total population" [0] In other words, as of 2021, about 41% of the population were either foreign-born or had at least one foreign-born parent. In large cities where most people live, it is even higher. And the future does not look any more British or French, either. "In 2024, more than two in five newborns (42.3%) in Canada had a foreign-born mother (i.e., a mother who was born outside Canada), a proportion that has nearly doubled in just over a quarter of a century (22.5% in 1997)." [1] "According to Statistics Canada's recent population projections, immigrants could represent from 29.1% to 34.0% of the total population by 2041." [0] [0] https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/221026/dq221026a-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/221026/dq221... [1] https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/91f0015m/91f0015m2025004-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/91f0015m/91f0015m2025004...
- Lio 10d ago
  > British, Scottish, You do realise that British implies Scottish don't you? On which island do you think Scotland is located?
gizajob 10d ago
You could argue even more effectively that it was British by founding and a British colony, with a big influence from the French. And we know what happened with Britain and the EU.
- vrganj 10d ago
  Britain, too, is European. They were even a part of the EU at one point ;)

by vrganj 10d ago

ocd 10d ago

I suppose. America is a much more mixed bag, while Canada at its core is still British, Scottish, and French. Enough cities have a certain sterile and organized appearance more common in Europe than the US. Not sure how else I'd describe it, but maybe Canada is a bit more "monolithic"?

david-gpu 10d ago
> Canada at its core is still British, Scottish, and French Have you been to Canada any time in the past few decades? Around half of the population of Toronto, Canada's largest city, is foreign-born. And I promise you it is not predominantly British or French people.
- ocd 10d ago
  Yes, I'm from here. Toronto is not a reflection of an entire country, and I would not compare Manhattan or a foreign military base as representative of the rest of another country either.
  - david-gpu 10d ago
    Here are two quotes from Statistics Canada, to provide some food for thought. "In 2021, more than 8.3 million people, or almost one-quarter (23.0%) of the population, were, or had ever been, a landed immigrant or permanent resident in Canada. [...] Just under 6.4 million people born in Canada had at least one foreign-born parent in 2021, representing 17.6% of the total population" [0] In other words, as of 2021, about 41% of the population were either foreign-born or had at least one foreign-born parent. In large cities where most people live, it is even higher. And the future does not look any more British or French, either. "In 2024, more than two in five newborns (42.3%) in Canada had a foreign-born mother (i.e., a mother who was born outside Canada), a proportion that has nearly doubled in just over a quarter of a century (22.5% in 1997)." [1] "According to Statistics Canada's recent population projections, immigrants could represent from 29.1% to 34.0% of the total population by 2041." [0] [0] https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/221026/dq221026a-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/221026/dq221... [1] https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/91f0015m/91f0015m2025004-eng.htm https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/91f0015m/91f0015m2025004...
Lio 10d ago
> British, Scottish, You do realise that British implies Scottish don't you? On which island do you think Scotland is located?

gizajob 10d ago

You could argue even more effectively that it was British by founding and a British colony, with a big influence from the French. And we know what happened with Britain and the EU.

vrganj 10d ago
Britain, too, is European. They were even a part of the EU at one point ;)