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Do you have a citation for that? What was the exact quote?

by bawolff 10d ago

cromka 10d ago
BBC https://www.bbc.com https://www.bbc.com Carney eyes 'unique alliance' with EU as trade war with US intensifies WSJ https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/canada-alliance-eu-carney-276f1778 https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/canada-alliance-eu-carney-2... Mark Carney's Audacious Bid to Make Canada an 'Associate Member' of the EU That's the coordination here. Which may have misfired, too: https://www.ft.com/content/2e2e0c1e-51d6-49e2-9f4a-6ef793908b85?syn-25a6b1a6=1 https://www.ft.com/content/2e2e0c1e-51d6-49e2-9f4a-6ef793908...
- bawolff 10d ago
  I agree that he has used the term "unique alliance", but he seems to dislike the term "associate member" and is denying it as it is playing poorly among some segments of canadian society (mostly right wing)
- frm88 10d ago
  Not exactly misfired, the title is somewhat clickbaity, 5 diplomats pointed to several aspects of difficulties with Ceta - nobody really "rebuffed" anything. The article is also somewhat hostile to the EU in general, is that a common notion on the FT? Anyways here's an archived link https://archive.is/RtfFb https://archive.is/RtfFb
Mashimo 10d ago
What I found: >>> "We're not looking to become a member of the European Union," Carney said Sunday evening on the red carpet of the Toronto International Film Festival. He attended the festival shortly after giving a speech to kick off the two-day Canada Investment Summit, which begins Monday. >>> "What we are looking — and will begin discussions for — [is] a unique alliance with the European Union. We share the same values, we have the same priorities and we have very complementary strengths." https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-european-union-eu-membership-poilievre-trump-tariffs-usa-9.7342604 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-european-union-eu-me...
- bawolff 10d ago
  Which is kind of my point. A unique alliance is not the same as becoming an associate member.
  - ginko 10d ago
    Being the EU's first associate member is by definition unique.
  - tencentshill 10d ago
    What do you define "associate member" as? Your definition is as good as Carneys.
    - bawolff 10d ago
      If the people in charge call it that, then its that. If the people in charge aren't using that terminology, then it isn't that.

Do you have a citation for that? What was the exact quote?

by bawolff 10d ago

Do you have a citation for that? What was the exact quote?

BBC https://www.bbc.com https://www.bbc.com Carney eyes 'unique alliance' with EU as trade war with US intensifies WSJ https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/canada-alliance-eu-carney-276f1778 https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/canada-alliance-eu-carney-2... Mark Carney's Audacious Bid to Make Canada an 'Associate Member' of the EU That's the coordination here. Which may have misfired, too: https://www.ft.com/content/2e2e0c1e-51d6-49e2-9f4a-6ef793908b85?syn-25a6b1a6=1 https://www.ft.com/content/2e2e0c1e-51d6-49e2-9f4a-6ef793908...

bawolff 10d ago
I agree that he has used the term "unique alliance", but he seems to dislike the term "associate member" and is denying it as it is playing poorly among some segments of canadian society (mostly right wing)
frm88 10d ago
Not exactly misfired, the title is somewhat clickbaity, 5 diplomats pointed to several aspects of difficulties with Ceta - nobody really "rebuffed" anything. The article is also somewhat hostile to the EU in general, is that a common notion on the FT? Anyways here's an archived link https://archive.is/RtfFb https://archive.is/RtfFb

Mashimo 10d ago

What I found: >>> "We're not looking to become a member of the European Union," Carney said Sunday evening on the red carpet of the Toronto International Film Festival. He attended the festival shortly after giving a speech to kick off the two-day Canada Investment Summit, which begins Monday. >>> "What we are looking — and will begin discussions for — [is] a unique alliance with the European Union. We share the same values, we have the same priorities and we have very complementary strengths." https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-european-union-eu-membership-poilievre-trump-tariffs-usa-9.7342604 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-european-union-eu-me...

bawolff 10d ago
Which is kind of my point. A unique alliance is not the same as becoming an associate member.
- ginko 10d ago
  Being the EU's first associate member is by definition unique.
- tencentshill 10d ago
  What do you define "associate member" as? Your definition is as good as Carneys.
  - bawolff 10d ago
    If the people in charge call it that, then its that. If the people in charge aren't using that terminology, then it isn't that.