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Do note that this very cool project does not run on the "default" MiSTer hardware. This board is $250 from AMD.

by unwind 17d ago

jumploops 17d ago
It's been awhile, but I believe the "default" MiSTer board is the DE10-Nano[0], which was released ~10-15 years ago? Looks like Intel (prev Terasic) is still selling them but they're now around $300, they used to be under $150 if memory serves. If I were jumping into this today, I'd prefer the much more powerful KV260[1] from the blog post over the DE10-Nano, that board was limited! [0]https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/topic-technology/edge-5g/hardware/fpga-de10-nano.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/topic-tech... [1]https://www.amd.com/en/products/system-on-modules/kria/k26/kv260-vision-starter-kit.html https://www.amd.com/en/products/system-on-modules/kria/k26/k... Sidenote: somewhat sad to see the consolidation into Intel and AMD, but FPGAs have always been second class citizens in the silicon space :(
- pipes 17d ago
  Does mister work with kv260 boards "out of the box" or is the official mister target a de10 nano? (I love my mister, assembled oneba few years ago). I don't follow the project closely due to zero free time these days
  - MegaDeKay 17d ago
    The latter. Official MiSTer targets the DE10 nano.
  - jakemauer 17d ago
    You have to base your build around either the DE10-Nano or one of the clone boards from QMTech. If I were getting into MiSTer I would skip faffing around with dev board builds and just get a SuperStation One, and I say this as someone who has two MiSTer builds based on DE-10 boards. In my case I'm using a MiniITX motherboard that the DE-10 plugs into called the IronClad Plus. The SuperStation one is apparently awesome. Great IO options, reference quality analog video, and nice industrial design.
- robertlagrant 17d ago
  > they used to be under $150 if memory serves True in more ways than one!
- chocochunks 17d ago
  There are much cheaper clones of the DE10 available these days. For a little while fully assembled MiSTer's were available on AliExpress for around $150-$200 although it looks like maybe they dried up. There's also the SuperStation based on the MiSTer project for around $250 if you're patient.
- MegaDeKay 17d ago
  If you want something more powerful than MiSTer and have a bit of patience, there is the Replay R2 being developmed around the Agilex 5. - Agilex 5 E-Series 043 (Replay2 phat) has 434,240 logic elements (LEs). - Agilex 5 E-Series 013 (Replay2 lite) has 138,060 Logic Elements (LEs). The website (https://www.fpgaarcade.com/news-2/ https://www.fpgaarcade.com/news-2/) hasn't been updated in some time but the dev now has prototype boards that he's in the middle of bringing up. It is purpose built for arcade emulation and has tons of I/O, lots of memory (both SRAM and HyperRAM), and (on the phat) a PCI connector. One or both (can't remember which) accepts an ARM daughterboard for hybrid emulation. There's a Discord for it you can track down to follow its progress basically in real time as mikej progresses.

Do note that this very cool project does not run on the "default" MiSTer hardware. This board is $250 from AMD.

by unwind 17d ago

Do note that this very cool project does not run on the "default" MiSTer hardware. This board is $250 from AMD.

It's been awhile, but I believe the "default" MiSTer board is the DE10-Nano[0], which was released ~10-15 years ago? Looks like Intel (prev Terasic) is still selling them but they're now around $300, they used to be under $150 if memory serves. If I were jumping into this today, I'd prefer the much more powerful KV260[1] from the blog post over the DE10-Nano, that board was limited! [0]https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/topic-technology/edge-5g/hardware/fpga-de10-nano.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/topic-tech... [1]https://www.amd.com/en/products/system-on-modules/kria/k26/kv260-vision-starter-kit.html https://www.amd.com/en/products/system-on-modules/kria/k26/k... Sidenote: somewhat sad to see the consolidation into Intel and AMD, but FPGAs have always been second class citizens in the silicon space :(

pipes 17d ago
Does mister work with kv260 boards "out of the box" or is the official mister target a de10 nano? (I love my mister, assembled oneba few years ago). I don't follow the project closely due to zero free time these days
- MegaDeKay 17d ago
  The latter. Official MiSTer targets the DE10 nano.
- jakemauer 17d ago
  You have to base your build around either the DE10-Nano or one of the clone boards from QMTech. If I were getting into MiSTer I would skip faffing around with dev board builds and just get a SuperStation One, and I say this as someone who has two MiSTer builds based on DE-10 boards. In my case I'm using a MiniITX motherboard that the DE-10 plugs into called the IronClad Plus. The SuperStation one is apparently awesome. Great IO options, reference quality analog video, and nice industrial design.
robertlagrant 17d ago
> they used to be under $150 if memory serves True in more ways than one!
chocochunks 17d ago
There are much cheaper clones of the DE10 available these days. For a little while fully assembled MiSTer's were available on AliExpress for around $150-$200 although it looks like maybe they dried up. There's also the SuperStation based on the MiSTer project for around $250 if you're patient.
MegaDeKay 17d ago
If you want something more powerful than MiSTer and have a bit of patience, there is the Replay R2 being developmed around the Agilex 5. - Agilex 5 E-Series 043 (Replay2 phat) has 434,240 logic elements (LEs). - Agilex 5 E-Series 013 (Replay2 lite) has 138,060 Logic Elements (LEs). The website (https://www.fpgaarcade.com/news-2/ https://www.fpgaarcade.com/news-2/) hasn't been updated in some time but the dev now has prototype boards that he's in the middle of bringing up. It is purpose built for arcade emulation and has tons of I/O, lots of memory (both SRAM and HyperRAM), and (on the phat) a PCI connector. One or both (can't remember which) accepts an ARM daughterboard for hybrid emulation. There's a Discord for it you can track down to follow its progress basically in real time as mikej progresses.