> Please cite these things that are factually incorrect. At the top of our thread, where you said Iran did not follow the JCPOA [0] and that they were denying

> Please cite these things that are factually incorrect. At the top of our thread, where you said Iran did not follow the JCPOA [0] and that they were denying access to military sites [1] where they were doing nuclear research. Repeated in another thread [2] under this topic. I presented sources indicated your statments were not accurate [3]. You said that you didn't have sources at the moment and might need to conceded that point [4]. >> Israel vs Palestine more recently, fighting over ancient holy sites. > That's not recent. Don't you know your history? They have been fighting recently, and still are. Maybe we are misunderstanding each other on this one. > Persian != Muslim - don't you know your history? I didn't say they were. I said that they are a proud people. And not happy to be imposed upon. > The Persians, the Iranians, they forget about this stuff just like every other country. Nobody has a "long memory", and if Iran is holding on to some 2,000 year old grudge The CIA admitted to overthrowing their democratically elected government in the 1950s [5], putting the Shah back in power, who went on to abuse the people of that country. That's not 2000 years ago. They got out from under that in 1979. And that wasn't a good thing for the people there, either. > Most people don't care about Islam or Muslims. This is unlike Islamic countries who care very much if you aren't Islamic. Maybe Islamic countries should grow up and get with the times? I saw more anti-mulsim sentiment in the U.S. during the war against Iraq. Shockingly unexpected sometimes, like random enounters with a Walmart manager making small talk. I still see anti-muslim sentiment now in relation to refugees who look different. Group think, fanned by meme's on facebook. I assume the same happens in Muslim countries. It's pretty easy to whip up public sentiment against colonial masters. And it's pretty easy to show "Death to America!" videos to Americans and get them all hopped up, too. It's how they maniuplate us. They don't tell prople that Iranians also say "Death to traffic!" [6] like Americans say "Fuck traffic!" > As an aside I detest JD Vance but he's calling this guy evil primarily because he's a communist, not a Muslim. I agree with your sentiment on JD Vance in general, but he mentioned religion is his Michigan speech about Abdul el Sayed, I didn't see any mention of communism: “What I see is a man who has sympathy and compassion for people who share his religion, but have nothing for people who don’t. A person who will apologize for a murderer so long as he looks the right way, but will not understand the plight of an innocent child if that person has the wrong faith” [7] Question: Do you have a different source on what JD Vance said? Why do you think he meant communism? There's things that need to be talked about in reference to the relationship with Iran. I think we should talk about what is true, and not be misled by propaganda. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49660178 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49660178 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49661916#49663356 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49661916#49663356 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49658299#49661062 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49658299#49661062 [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49661916#49665530 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49661916#49665530 [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49661916#49665633 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49661916#49665633 [5] https://apnews.com/article/iran-1953-coup-cia-218323db3cc1aca6bde1e54827527e8d https://apnews.com/article/iran-1953-coup-cia-218323db3cc1ac... [6] https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/video/tv-show/tv-specials/iran/iran-travel-journal-part-iv https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/video/tv-show/t... [7] https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/31/politics/jd-vance-abdul-el-sayed https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/31/politics/jd-vance-abdul-e...