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Head of Talent at a few different startups here. I have seen this happen multiple times.

rhizome 14y ago
"Head of Talent" sounds pretty third-party HR, sorry. The fact remains is that this kind of conventional wisdom persists without examples.
- sbisker 14y ago
  Huh? The guy is posting from an account with 600 karma; I'm going to assume his experience is at least as reputable as anyone else's here. Though it'd be useful to hear a slightly more specific example with the timescales and nuances on which these things happen, yes.
  - nostrademons 14y ago
    Not saying anything about the guy's experience (I usually take people at face value when they say what they do), but karma's a pretty shitty measure to judge expertise. - Signed, the guy with 23,000 karma, who was once #2 on the leaderboard and is still in the top 30.
    - sbisker 14y ago
      I think there's a lot more meaning in the difference between 0 and 600 karma, than the difference between 600 and 23,000 karma. I was only speaking to my willingness to believe this guy wasn't flat lying or exaggerating about his position, or simply trolling. But tips hat point taken.
      - ryguytilidie 14y ago
        For what its worth, I;m not lying or exaggerating. I can send you my LinkedIn if you'd like and it would be clear I'm not lying. I suppose I could have provided some examples, but I would have been a lot more willing to do so if the guys original response had been "can you give a few examples" versus "hey stranger on the internet, let me accuse you of lying about what your job is, because that seems rational..."
- potatolicious 14y ago
  Used to work for a Fortune 100 tech company everyone has heard of - and have heard this confirmed from multiple members of first-party HR. You're under no obligation to believe me, but I've heard this corroborated by people in the know.
  - rhizome 14y ago
    So, "friend of a friend" is all we have for this? Hearsay? I'd think that if this was anything more than received wisdom that there would be more concrete stories about it.
    - tptacek 14y ago
      Hey, cut it out. Multiple people have now told you they have direct experience with this issue. If you have a real argument against the idea that counteroffers are risky, marshall it.
    - ryguytilidie 14y ago
      After you tell me I'm lying about what my job is, you accuse someone else of only relating stories through a friend of a friend, when it is clear thats not whats happening. What is your agenda here? Your disconnection with reality is getting a bit scary...
- ryguytilidie 14y ago
  Thanks for telling me what my job is, but its not third party HR. I am the head of talent at a specific startup and I had been at a different one before that. I hope you made yourself feel better with this bizarre snark out of nowhere though?

"Head of Talent" sounds pretty third-party HR, sorry. The fact remains is that this kind of conventional wisdom persists without examples.

sbisker 14y ago
Huh? The guy is posting from an account with 600 karma; I'm going to assume his experience is at least as reputable as anyone else's here. Though it'd be useful to hear a slightly more specific example with the timescales and nuances on which these things happen, yes.
- nostrademons 14y ago
  Not saying anything about the guy's experience (I usually take people at face value when they say what they do), but karma's a pretty shitty measure to judge expertise. - Signed, the guy with 23,000 karma, who was once #2 on the leaderboard and is still in the top 30.
  - sbisker 14y ago
    I think there's a lot more meaning in the difference between 0 and 600 karma, than the difference between 600 and 23,000 karma. I was only speaking to my willingness to believe this guy wasn't flat lying or exaggerating about his position, or simply trolling. But tips hat point taken.
    - ryguytilidie 14y ago
      For what its worth, I;m not lying or exaggerating. I can send you my LinkedIn if you'd like and it would be clear I'm not lying. I suppose I could have provided some examples, but I would have been a lot more willing to do so if the guys original response had been "can you give a few examples" versus "hey stranger on the internet, let me accuse you of lying about what your job is, because that seems rational..."
potatolicious 14y ago
Used to work for a Fortune 100 tech company everyone has heard of - and have heard this confirmed from multiple members of first-party HR. You're under no obligation to believe me, but I've heard this corroborated by people in the know.
- rhizome 14y ago
  So, "friend of a friend" is all we have for this? Hearsay? I'd think that if this was anything more than received wisdom that there would be more concrete stories about it.
  - tptacek 14y ago
    Hey, cut it out. Multiple people have now told you they have direct experience with this issue. If you have a real argument against the idea that counteroffers are risky, marshall it.
  - ryguytilidie 14y ago
    After you tell me I'm lying about what my job is, you accuse someone else of only relating stories through a friend of a friend, when it is clear thats not whats happening. What is your agenda here? Your disconnection with reality is getting a bit scary...
ryguytilidie 14y ago
Thanks for telling me what my job is, but its not third party HR. I am the head of talent at a specific startup and I had been at a different one before that. I hope you made yourself feel better with this bizarre snark out of nowhere though?