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Not require, just recommends Pentium 60 minimum. Like Quake Tomb Raider loves pipelined FPU, 30 fps on Pentium 60 vs 15 fps on 486DX2@66 and 20 on DX4@100.

by rasz 18d ago

tharkun__ 18d ago
Whoa, you took me back quite a few years there! I really wanted a DX4@100 back then but it wasn't available in my area. I "had" to get a Pentium 60, which I was not happy about lol. Upgraded to a Pentium 200 MMX. Whoa! And then I also got a specific batch Celeron 300a to overclock. "Stole" my dad's Matrox Mystique, coz what does he need a "3D" card for? Played "Destruction Derby" a lot, just coz 3D card: https://archive.org/details/dd2matrox_19961205 https://archive.org/details/dd2matrox_19961205 Wow, the times!
- samuelec 18d ago
  If I remember correctly the Pentium 60 was the one that had math rounding errors, isn't it? What a memory
  - 0points 18d ago
    This? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug > The FDIV bug affects the 60 and 66 MHz Pentium P5 800 in stepping levels prior to D1, and the 75, 90, and 100 MHz Pentium P54C 600 in steppings prior to B5. The 120 MHz P54C and P54CQS CPUs are unaffected.
- jasonwatkinspdx 17d ago
  Those Celeron 300As were quite the deal. My whole LAN party crew had them in the dual slot abit motherboard.
  - tharkun__ 16d ago
    Did we go to the same LAN parties?
    - jasonwatkinspdx 16d ago
      Heh, if you were in the PNW it's possible. In that era there definitely were killer deals that just spread like wildfire among people who knew. And ABit built their brand catering to overclockers/tweakers, much to the annoyance of Intel lol. There was also that Hitachi 19" CRT that could do 1600x1200 rock solid, and had a nicer than most shadow mask CRT. A big lot of those went up for sale super cheap on ubid or some site like that and we all found out about it through Something Awful and similar forums. We lugged those 60 lb CRTs to our small dozen person group every other weekend, along with full size ATX towers as you did. That combo with the Voodoo2 SLI was the king rig for quite some time. I was one of the heretics that went from a Voodoo1 to a Riva TNT2 because I was also fooling around with 3d animation apps, and the TNT2 could at least try to make those go.
consp 18d ago
Iirc the only way of getting near 30fps on a socket 3 board is by bumping the bus to 50mhz, having fast cache and a 5x86 and enabling branch prediction and the fpu optimisations. And then wait for it to fault out. Never tried it with an Pentium overdrive though, maybe that will work but those do not like higher bus speeds. Might also be a nice difference in DX4s since the amd and cyrix parts have different fpu implementations to the intel ones.

Not require, just recommends Pentium 60 minimum. Like Quake Tomb Raider loves pipelined FPU, 30 fps on Pentium 60 vs 15 fps on 486DX2@66 and 20 on DX4@100.

by rasz 18d ago

Not require, just recommends Pentium 60 minimum. Like Quake Tomb Raider loves pipelined FPU, 30 fps on Pentium 60 vs 15 fps on 486DX2@66 and 20 on DX4@100.

tharkun__ 18d ago

Whoa, you took me back quite a few years there! I really wanted a DX4@100 back then but it wasn't available in my area. I "had" to get a Pentium 60, which I was not happy about lol. Upgraded to a Pentium 200 MMX. Whoa! And then I also got a specific batch Celeron 300a to overclock. "Stole" my dad's Matrox Mystique, coz what does he need a "3D" card for? Played "Destruction Derby" a lot, just coz 3D card: https://archive.org/details/dd2matrox_19961205 https://archive.org/details/dd2matrox_19961205 Wow, the times!

samuelec 18d ago
If I remember correctly the Pentium 60 was the one that had math rounding errors, isn't it? What a memory
- 0points 18d ago
  This? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug > The FDIV bug affects the 60 and 66 MHz Pentium P5 800 in stepping levels prior to D1, and the 75, 90, and 100 MHz Pentium P54C 600 in steppings prior to B5. The 120 MHz P54C and P54CQS CPUs are unaffected.
jasonwatkinspdx 17d ago
Those Celeron 300As were quite the deal. My whole LAN party crew had them in the dual slot abit motherboard.
- tharkun__ 16d ago
  Did we go to the same LAN parties?
  - jasonwatkinspdx 16d ago
    Heh, if you were in the PNW it's possible. In that era there definitely were killer deals that just spread like wildfire among people who knew. And ABit built their brand catering to overclockers/tweakers, much to the annoyance of Intel lol. There was also that Hitachi 19" CRT that could do 1600x1200 rock solid, and had a nicer than most shadow mask CRT. A big lot of those went up for sale super cheap on ubid or some site like that and we all found out about it through Something Awful and similar forums. We lugged those 60 lb CRTs to our small dozen person group every other weekend, along with full size ATX towers as you did. That combo with the Voodoo2 SLI was the king rig for quite some time. I was one of the heretics that went from a Voodoo1 to a Riva TNT2 because I was also fooling around with 3d animation apps, and the TNT2 could at least try to make those go.

consp 18d ago

Iirc the only way of getting near 30fps on a socket 3 board is by bumping the bus to 50mhz, having fast cache and a 5x86 and enabling branch prediction and the fpu optimisations. And then wait for it to fault out. Never tried it with an Pentium overdrive though, maybe that will work but those do not like higher bus speeds. Might also be a nice difference in DX4s since the amd and cyrix parts have different fpu implementations to the intel ones.