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> The lack of respect software developers have for their craft confounds me every day, to the point that I wonder if anyone in software actually writes code bec

by bitwize 11d ago

> The lack of respect software developers have for their craft confounds me every day, to the point that I wonder if anyone in software actually writes code because they enjoy it, instead of making money. Pivoting from programming-brained to business-brained has proven so successful for the likes of Bill Gates, that quite a few other programmers have done likewise (including arguably the esteemed founder of this place, Paul Graham). In addition, the filed has attracted so many people who are indeed business-brained and mainly in it for the money, especially over the past 20 years or so. I used to gently make fun of colleagues of mine at college, who switched majors from computer science to MIS (Management Information Systems) as they discovered that programming is hard and math is hard. I thought of MIS as "computer science on easy mode", and called the textbooks they used "Richard Scarry books"[0] because they were full of busy-looking illustrations but lacking in depth. Serves me right for my arrogance, I guess, because the Richard-Scarry-book kids are winning bigly, going from zero to go-to-market in no time flat with LLM agents to do the work they were afraid of in college. Having a business brain is the new moat. [0] Richard Scarry was an American children's book author, known for his books whose pages were filled with large colorful illustrations of the animal citizens of Busytown. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Scarry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Scarry

shimman 10d ago
Bill Gates is a known Epstein associate, had sex with a woman likely against their will while being tracked by Epstein, and had to drug his wife unknowingly to her so she wouldn't get a sexually transmitted disease he caught while having sex with said woman on said island. This isn't even going into his COVID policies where we purposely denied a life saving vaccine because he couldn't profit from it. Is this really the bar of aspiration we should aspire too? A known degenerate that doesn't care about humans?
- mc32 10d ago
  I have no problem believing Bill is a scoundrel, however, much of what you reference here is from an “unsent draft” email most likely just made up by Epstein (without a precedent email). At least I'm not aware of any corroborating evidence.
- tapete1 10d ago
  > This isn't even going into his COVID policies where we purposely denied a life saving vaccine because he couldn't profit from it. Yeah you should provide a source for that claim. I could not find any. Or maybe stop spreading your conspiracy stories.
  - shimman 10d ago
    The only conspiracy on this board is believing these people aren't actual demons that walk among us: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/14/global-covid-pandemic-response-bill-gates-partners-00053969 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/14/global-covid-pandem... Sorry but Bill Gates is an excellent example of someone that should be prison on various charges: from harming children to deliberately denying access to a vaccine to make profit to engaging with human traffikers. There is nothing redeemable about a man that was born with a silver spoon in their mouth and decided to act like a tyrant with little democratic controls.
- bitwize 10d ago
  I don't like the guy, nor do I think of him as a role model, but he's not successful because he palled around with Epstein; he got the opportunity to pal around with Epstein because he was successful. And that success inspired others. The business-oriented side of IT hailed him, and Microsoft, as a success story to be emulated. Those people are going to come out on top when all is said and done in the AI revolution. The old-school programmers who got into it for the sheer joy of it, the hackers, are going to lose, as the abilities that set them apart and let them trade some of the value they bring for enough money to keep hacking become available to anyone on tap for a few bucks per million tokens.

by bitwize 11d ago

shimman 10d ago

Bill Gates is a known Epstein associate, had sex with a woman likely against their will while being tracked by Epstein, and had to drug his wife unknowingly to her so she wouldn't get a sexually transmitted disease he caught while having sex with said woman on said island. This isn't even going into his COVID policies where we purposely denied a life saving vaccine because he couldn't profit from it. Is this really the bar of aspiration we should aspire too? A known degenerate that doesn't care about humans?

mc32 10d ago
I have no problem believing Bill is a scoundrel, however, much of what you reference here is from an “unsent draft” email most likely just made up by Epstein (without a precedent email). At least I'm not aware of any corroborating evidence.
tapete1 10d ago
> This isn't even going into his COVID policies where we purposely denied a life saving vaccine because he couldn't profit from it. Yeah you should provide a source for that claim. I could not find any. Or maybe stop spreading your conspiracy stories.
- shimman 10d ago
  The only conspiracy on this board is believing these people aren't actual demons that walk among us: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/14/global-covid-pandemic-response-bill-gates-partners-00053969 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/14/global-covid-pandem... Sorry but Bill Gates is an excellent example of someone that should be prison on various charges: from harming children to deliberately denying access to a vaccine to make profit to engaging with human traffikers. There is nothing redeemable about a man that was born with a silver spoon in their mouth and decided to act like a tyrant with little democratic controls.
bitwize 10d ago
I don't like the guy, nor do I think of him as a role model, but he's not successful because he palled around with Epstein; he got the opportunity to pal around with Epstein because he was successful. And that success inspired others. The business-oriented side of IT hailed him, and Microsoft, as a success story to be emulated. Those people are going to come out on top when all is said and done in the AI revolution. The old-school programmers who got into it for the sheer joy of it, the hackers, are going to lose, as the abilities that set them apart and let them trade some of the value they bring for enough money to keep hacking become available to anyone on tap for a few bucks per million tokens.