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Gatekeeping information is not the solution

by extralongdivisi 19d ago

hamandcheese 19d ago
Why not? If its the difference between the information being available at all, then I choose login any day of the week.
- extralongdivisi 19d ago
  > If its the difference between the information being available at all That's the point. The solution should avoid information not being available. Requiring login will incentivize bots to create spam accounts and move the battle to a new frontier, hurting real people in the process.
- TechSquidTV 18d ago
  This really only inconveniences people, not bots.
mitxela 18d ago
Do you have a library card?
- extralongdivisi 18d ago
  I can walk into a library, pull a book from a shelf, sit down, and read it front to back. No library card needed. Only need one to take a book home. Completely different scenario. Edit:clarification
  - hbn 18d ago
    Only because there's no way for bots to exploit the system since it's in the physical world. If thousands of robots suddenly showed up at your local library and started hogging all the books so nobody else could use the library, you can be sure a library card would be required to even enter.
    - extralongdivisi 18d ago
      You clearly do not live in an area with a large homeless population. Many libraries are effectively under-resourced homeless shelters. Yet, no requirement to have a library card to get in. Information is still open to the public.
      - mitxela 17d ago
        Even more libraries ban homeless people.
        extralongdivisi 17d ago
        1. I have never been to a library that has banned any class of people. Let alone specifically homeless people. 2. I don't know the laws of your jurisdiction, but banning a whole group of people from a public place would, by definition, not make it a public place. 3. The overwhelming majority of librarians view libraries as a service for everyone, including the homeless[0]. [0]: https://www.ala.org/sites/default/files/aboutala/content/olos/toolkits/poorhomeless_FINAL.pdf https://www.ala.org/sites/default/files/aboutala/content/olo...

Gatekeeping information is not the solution

hamandcheese 19d ago

Why not? If its the difference between the information being available at all, then I choose login any day of the week.

extralongdivisi 19d ago
> If its the difference between the information being available at all That's the point. The solution should avoid information not being available. Requiring login will incentivize bots to create spam accounts and move the battle to a new frontier, hurting real people in the process.
TechSquidTV 18d ago
This really only inconveniences people, not bots.

mitxela 18d ago

Do you have a library card?

extralongdivisi 18d ago
I can walk into a library, pull a book from a shelf, sit down, and read it front to back. No library card needed. Only need one to take a book home. Completely different scenario. Edit:clarification
- hbn 18d ago
  Only because there's no way for bots to exploit the system since it's in the physical world. If thousands of robots suddenly showed up at your local library and started hogging all the books so nobody else could use the library, you can be sure a library card would be required to even enter.
  - extralongdivisi 18d ago
    You clearly do not live in an area with a large homeless population. Many libraries are effectively under-resourced homeless shelters. Yet, no requirement to have a library card to get in. Information is still open to the public.
    - mitxela 17d ago
      Even more libraries ban homeless people.
      - extralongdivisi 17d ago
        1. I have never been to a library that has banned any class of people. Let alone specifically homeless people. 2. I don't know the laws of your jurisdiction, but banning a whole group of people from a public place would, by definition, not make it a public place. 3. The overwhelming majority of librarians view libraries as a service for everyone, including the homeless[0]. [0]: https://www.ala.org/sites/default/files/aboutala/content/olos/toolkits/poorhomeless_FINAL.pdf https://www.ala.org/sites/default/files/aboutala/content/olo...