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The immediate response to the 10/7 infiltration attack was extremely lethal to Israelis as well, something not well covered outside of Israeli media. 28 helico

The immediate response to the 10/7 infiltration attack was extremely lethal to Israelis as well, something not well covered outside of Israeli media. 28 helicopters emptied their internal stores of 30mm autocannon and Hellfires that day, with many RTB to rearm/refuel, all of them at dense Israeli territory. Seven of them dumped their entire stores into Moshav Tkuma. To this day all deaths there are tallied to the infiltrators, with the exception of Efrat Katz. Rapid bulldozer burial of damaged vehicles and buildings was also performed, as the damage from those weapons is very distinctive. Not a gesture of honesty, that. Tanks were also instructed to fire their main armament into houses known to have civilians inside. Israeli corpses were, again, tallied to infiltrators; any non-Israeli corpses tallied as hostile. Pilots, soldiers, tankists, and UAS operators all asked over the radio for targets that day, but were simply directed to apply maximal fires to anything that moved in a Palestinian-like way. Hannibal was cited as justification. The Israeli Hannibal operational order, which directs the use of force to prevent soldiers being taken into captivity, was apparently being cited over the air to justify the deaths of civilians. An extreme distortion, but one which Israelis are increasingly making their peace with, alongside many others.

cocoanana 18d ago
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- ceejayoz 17d ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive
- lopsotronic 15d ago
  user etc-hosts posted articles in the next thread down. In addition to those see also: Yedioth Ahronoth: Articles by Yoav Zitun and Yedioth Ahronoth reports on IDF protocols. Haaretz: Reports involving Nir Gontarz, Josh Breiner, podcast featuring Colonel Nof Erez. The Guardian: An interview with Lieutenant Colonel Salman Habaka by Peter Beaumont. The New York Times: Coverage featuring Brigadier General Barak Hiram. Khan (State Radio): Testimony from survivor Yasmin Porat. MSNBC: An interview with Israeli advisor Mark Regev. The Jerusalem Post: Reporting on the burial of vehicles. The Electronic Intifada: Ongoing reporting and commentary on friendly fire incidents.
AuthAuth 18d ago
This is a conspiracy that has next to no evidence to support its claims. Judging by your usage of extremely lethal im going to guess you think a significant % of the deaths that day were friendly fire. IDF have addressed both the friendly fire instances and the deaths were 14
- monideas 18d ago
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- dingaling911 18d ago
  Brother, it's literally from their own news.
  - AuthAuth 18d ago
    The conspiracy is lying and that it was more than it actually was to downplay the hamas deaths. Re-read the comment I replied two and look at the way its worded "The immediate response to the 10/7 infiltration attack was extremely lethal to Israelis as well", "28 helicopters emptied their internal stores of 30mm autocannon and Hellfires that day, with many RTB to rearm/refuel, all of them at dense Israeli territory Seven of them dumped their entire stores into Moshav Tkuma." there was 1 death by helicopter when a hamas truck was shot and there was an isreali hostage inside unknown to the pilot. There is no evidence to support the conspiracy that they were mag dumping everything that moved. "Tanks were also instructed to fire their main armament into houses known to have civilians inside. Israeli corpses were, again, tallied to infiltrators; any non-Israeli corpses tallied as hostile.". There is no evidence they were instructed to do this and there is only one instance of tank fire killing isreali's and it was due to unknown hostages inside the house. The entire response was within reason for what you'd expect but the iran propaganda network works hard to spin the narrative and create doubt and weave conspiracy.
    - dingaling911 18d ago
      So the conspiracy is that Israel killed its own people, but in a different way than the person said.
weatherlite 12d ago
Friendly fire was a rarity and extreme minority of deaths on October 7th. Perhaps dozens out of 1200 that day. If the pilots haven't done anything realistically more civilians would have died. Do you have a better way of handling an invasion of thousands of people who came to kill and kidnap? And this btw also goes the other direction - Hamas killed himself many Gazans either by mistake (missile falls in the wrong place) or on purpose; they are all counted as deaths by the IDF.

cocoanana 18d ago

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ceejayoz 17d ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive
lopsotronic 15d ago
user etc-hosts posted articles in the next thread down. In addition to those see also: Yedioth Ahronoth: Articles by Yoav Zitun and Yedioth Ahronoth reports on IDF protocols. Haaretz: Reports involving Nir Gontarz, Josh Breiner, podcast featuring Colonel Nof Erez. The Guardian: An interview with Lieutenant Colonel Salman Habaka by Peter Beaumont. The New York Times: Coverage featuring Brigadier General Barak Hiram. Khan (State Radio): Testimony from survivor Yasmin Porat. MSNBC: An interview with Israeli advisor Mark Regev. The Jerusalem Post: Reporting on the burial of vehicles. The Electronic Intifada: Ongoing reporting and commentary on friendly fire incidents.

AuthAuth 18d ago

This is a conspiracy that has next to no evidence to support its claims. Judging by your usage of extremely lethal im going to guess you think a significant % of the deaths that day were friendly fire. IDF have addressed both the friendly fire instances and the deaths were 14

monideas 18d ago
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dingaling911 18d ago
Brother, it's literally from their own news.
- AuthAuth 18d ago
  The conspiracy is lying and that it was more than it actually was to downplay the hamas deaths. Re-read the comment I replied two and look at the way its worded "The immediate response to the 10/7 infiltration attack was extremely lethal to Israelis as well", "28 helicopters emptied their internal stores of 30mm autocannon and Hellfires that day, with many RTB to rearm/refuel, all of them at dense Israeli territory Seven of them dumped their entire stores into Moshav Tkuma." there was 1 death by helicopter when a hamas truck was shot and there was an isreali hostage inside unknown to the pilot. There is no evidence to support the conspiracy that they were mag dumping everything that moved. "Tanks were also instructed to fire their main armament into houses known to have civilians inside. Israeli corpses were, again, tallied to infiltrators; any non-Israeli corpses tallied as hostile.". There is no evidence they were instructed to do this and there is only one instance of tank fire killing isreali's and it was due to unknown hostages inside the house. The entire response was within reason for what you'd expect but the iran propaganda network works hard to spin the narrative and create doubt and weave conspiracy.
  - dingaling911 18d ago
    So the conspiracy is that Israel killed its own people, but in a different way than the person said.

weatherlite 12d ago

Friendly fire was a rarity and extreme minority of deaths on October 7th. Perhaps dozens out of 1200 that day. If the pilots haven't done anything realistically more civilians would have died. Do you have a better way of handling an invasion of thousands of people who came to kill and kidnap? And this btw also goes the other direction - Hamas killed himself many Gazans either by mistake (missile falls in the wrong place) or on purpose; they are all counted as deaths by the IDF.