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Examples provided as technical examples, strong feelings are out of scope for this thread.

• itintheory 1mo ago
  As someone who operates a large non-profit public data driven website, I have some VERY strong feelings about scrapers. We looked into various commercial solutions (Datadome, HUMAN) and based on our traffic estimates from logs we'd be looking at at least 250k/yr for bot mitigation. Anubis is offering a temporary reprieve, but after reading the recent kernel.org article [0] it's increasingly clear that this is a temporary bandaid. The cheapest solution is to require a login and rate limit by API key. I also have strong feelings about the tragedy of the commons. [0] https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/creepy-crawlies https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/creepy-crawlies
  • toomuchtodo 1mo ago
    No strong feelings here is what I meant. Certainly, that energy is best directed into aggressive countermeasures and defense in depth of public goods. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=author%3Adang%20%E2%80%9Cstrong%20feelings%E2%80%9D&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
  • userbinator 1mo ago
    I say put your data up in torrents, host a few KB of plain HTML linking to them, and let decentralisation do the rest.
    • itintheory 1mo ago
      The data IS available. You can download it all from several sources in one big dump. And yet we're still scraped.
      • userbinator 1mo ago
        Further evidence that they're not actually going after your data, but just DDoS'ing.