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I can't bring myself to send a corporation a constant stream of extremely personal data when I know they absolutely will sell/leak all of it along with the coun

I can't bring myself to send a corporation a constant stream of extremely personal data when I know they absolutely will sell/leak all of it along with the countless assumptions they'll make about me using that same data. It'd be nice to have the information a ring or watch gathers as long as it stayed local. I haven't seen many products offering that though. The thought of not being able to continuously profit from surveillance is just too painful for many companies to bother creating a product aimed at the consumer who doesn't want to be spied on I guess.

sandcat_ 18d ago
For what it’s worth the Apple Watch can store data entirely locally, or if you want sync it’s E2EE.
- autoexec 18d ago
  Kind of. You still need an account/iphone to set it up. It will still send data via wifi if it can, and you'll be tracked over bluetooth even if you keep in in "airplane mode". I'm not sure how easily you get data off of it and onto a PC or laptop either or what format that data is in, but if you already have an iphone it's not a terrible option.
  - tencentshill 18d ago
    You can export all data in xml https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/share-your-health-data-iph5ede58c3d/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/share-your-health-dat...
Forgeties79 18d ago
It’s why I have enjoyed my refurbished pebble though I won’t be getting their “index” because I just don’t want a smart ring tbh. Nice to have a slightly dumber product with better battery life and open source top to bottom.
post-it 18d ago
Colmi smart rings have a reverse-engineered Bluetooth protocol, so you can use Gadgetbridge instead of the official QRing app and keep everything local.
- pizzaiolo 18d ago
  The only problem is that the data is woefully inaccurate, so what's even the point?
  - post-it 18d ago
    I find it's comparable to the data from my Apple Watch.
timwis 18d ago
Pebble Index!
bradleyankrom 18d ago
Exactly why I abandoned my Oura ring. I stopped wearing it for a couple of years, and when I went back, it wouldn't work without a cloud account/sync.
- _ks3e 18d ago
  The bluetooth protocol has been reverse-engineered and you can run everything locally with https://github.com/Th0rgal/open_oura https://github.com/Th0rgal/open_oura
someguynamedq 18d ago
Presumably you have no social media then?

sandcat_ 18d ago

For what it’s worth the Apple Watch can store data entirely locally, or if you want sync it’s E2EE.

autoexec 18d ago
Kind of. You still need an account/iphone to set it up. It will still send data via wifi if it can, and you'll be tracked over bluetooth even if you keep in in "airplane mode". I'm not sure how easily you get data off of it and onto a PC or laptop either or what format that data is in, but if you already have an iphone it's not a terrible option.
- tencentshill 18d ago
  You can export all data in xml https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/share-your-health-data-iph5ede58c3d/ios https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/share-your-health-dat...

Forgeties79 18d ago

It’s why I have enjoyed my refurbished pebble though I won’t be getting their “index” because I just don’t want a smart ring tbh. Nice to have a slightly dumber product with better battery life and open source top to bottom.

post-it 18d ago

Colmi smart rings have a reverse-engineered Bluetooth protocol, so you can use Gadgetbridge instead of the official QRing app and keep everything local.

pizzaiolo 18d ago
The only problem is that the data is woefully inaccurate, so what's even the point?
- post-it 18d ago
  I find it's comparable to the data from my Apple Watch.

timwis 18d ago

Pebble Index!

bradleyankrom 18d ago

Exactly why I abandoned my Oura ring. I stopped wearing it for a couple of years, and when I went back, it wouldn't work without a cloud account/sync.

_ks3e 18d ago
The bluetooth protocol has been reverse-engineered and you can run everything locally with https://github.com/Th0rgal/open_oura https://github.com/Th0rgal/open_oura

someguynamedq 18d ago

Presumably you have no social media then?