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conservatives?
by bradleykingz 17d ago
conservatives?
- verelo 17d agoIs that a joke? Seriously. I don't see any conservative remaining, and it's been a while.
- tdhz77 17d agoIt had to be a joke. Conservative policies have made things much worse. It’s hard to believe they have a party that gets 60 million people to vote for them.
- CursedSilicon 17d agoNever underestimate the power of the fourth estate
- willy_k 17d agoResponse to sister comment: conservatism, and the groups that claim to support it, are separate. Same with liberals, and socialists, and the Democrat Party.
- doobiedowner 17d agoIf that were true, the streets would be punctuated by shrill screams in reaction to the past decade of Republican spending.
- dragontamer 17d agoSo name one. These politicans have names, do they not? We do have the name of one politician who balanced the New York City budget though. Its probably not going to please a lot of people to hear that guy's name though. But that's what people want, right? Balanced budgets? But no. That's not what people want and we all know it.
- LPisGood 17d agoOne aspect of that balanced budget that should be noted is that it does rely on a sizable funding increase from the state government. Now, that state is legally required to have a balanced budget itself, so perhaps this is a small side note rather than a major change in perspective. I just think it’s not spoken about enough when discussing how that budget process went.
- dragontamer 16d agoNYC had a deficit of $12 Billion before the current mayor.
- willy_k 16d agoSo what is he? A Democrat, and what else? Parties are groups of people, ideologies are pure ideals. They are distinct, with overlaps in their demographics.
- p_j_w 17d agoAt least in the US, conservatives have done more to increase the debt than liberals for the last 40 years at least.
- fragmede 17d agoTurns out, that was just a lie that some people told fiscally conservative people to get them to vote against their interests, just like other "wedge" issues like abortion or trans people.
- pjc50 17d agoTrump, sitting on top of a Republican government, is responsible for 10Trn of the debt, about a quarter. Conservatives gave up on principles long ago and have settled for simply lying about everything, including what's happening and who's responsible for it.
- podocarp 17d agoThe words are so overloaded. Republican is just generic right wing. I think the "conservative" the parent is talking about is the neoliberalism like what Milton Friedman would propose. He would have wanted half of the government gone, next to no market intervention (he even argued against seatbelts in one lecture). That would actually be the "conservative" someone you stereotypically imagine like Ron Swanson would adopt, who describes the perfect government as just a person in a tiny white room. The Republicans are a joke, just like the Democrats. They're both there for themselves, and have no actual agenda, manifesto, ideals, or values. They've got all the junk identity politics, religion, abortion, immigration crap mixed in such that you're either picking crap or crap. There's nothing "liberal" about the Democrats and nothing "conservative" about the Republicans. The Republicans were even the ones who freed the slaves! Make of that what you will.
- CursedSilicon 17d agoOh, you want "libertarianism" then. Not the original kind, the Ayn Rand kind That always works out well. Until the bears come [1] [1] https://newrepublic.com/article/159662/libertarian-walks-into-bear-book-review-free-town-project https://newrepublic.com/article/159662/libertarian-walks-int...
- method_capital 16d agoHe didn't say what he "wanted". We're so blinded by partisan stupidity we can't even be bothered to read, understand, and think anymore.
- CursedSilicon 16d ago