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Russia is at war with Europe. Europe is not yet at war with Russia but it will be in time.
by grey-area 26d ago
Russia is at war with Europe.
Europe is not yet at war with Russia but it will be in time.
- bamboozled 25d agoThe plan is to turn Europe into a Pro Russia right wing empire before that happens though. AfD etc.
- grey-area 25d agoA multi-pronged plan, starting with funding Brexit to weaken Europe.
- nullorempty 25d agoExcept... it finances and arms Ukraine. Yeah, Europe is at war with Russia. Yet again.
- wolvoleo 25d agoWe should just build up enough nuclear deterrent to prevent Russia from attacking us. We've been dependent on the US for this but this was also by the US' own design. They didn't want many countries to have nukes. So the whole 'Europe is not doing its bit' is not really justified. We don't need more tanks and soldiers because if we go at Russia like Ukraine does, so many people will die that it doesn't matter who wins. We just need to be able to destroy Russia so thoroughly that they won't think about attacking us, just like they don't attack the US. Mutually assured destruction has kept the world safe for almost a century but now with the US no longer committed to NATO we just need to build our own.
- grey-area 25d agoRussia are already attacking Europe. Europe already has a nuclear deterrent.
- wolvoleo 24d agoWell what I mean is tanks across the border. Some psyops and a drone here and there is not really cause to go all out. A tank division invading Poland would be, of course. And Europa has some deterrent but nothing compared to the Russian one. We have a major 'missile gap' right now.
- preisschild 24d ago> Europe already has a nuclear deterrent. This is not true. UK and FR have them (probably not enough though). UK/FR definitely wouldn't retaliate if Berlin or Warsaw were to be hit by a RU nuke.
- lenkite 24d agoEurope is already in a warm-war with Russia. EU has sent hundreds of thousands of drones used to attack Russia - along with training, intelligence and target guidance. EU airspace is used openly by Ukraine to attack Russia. IMHO, war should be openly declared with clear objectives. That way the Russian €200 billion can be openly seized without all the whining.
- grey-area 24d agoI don’t think so, it is at best a proxy war on the Europe side at present. They are supporting Ukraine. On the Russian side however they are carrying out brazen attacks in EU member states and crossing air and maritime boundaries. Whether the EU should respond in kind is a whole other question.
- lenkite 24d agoThis puzzles me. If Ukrainian drones have free reign of EU airspace to carry out attacks on Russia, then why can't Russian drones cross EU airspace ? Isn't that just symmetric ? Have any Russian drones caused EU casualties ?