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The new one appears to use real art from real humans, instead of AI art that was fixed. And just because 2 things do the same job doesn't make one a "copy" of

The new one appears to use real art from real humans, instead of AI art that was fixed. And just because 2 things do the same job doesn't make one a "copy" of the other.

jiwidi 18d ago
My mistake for calling it "copy", should have said fork maybe (?) They are awful close to still require a reference to the original project imo. They are achieving the same output (identify birds and display them in a frame display all hosted in a raspberry pi) with that twist to how to generate the art.
- arnemunthekaas 18d ago
  Author here: I'll take any feedback and critisism. I haven't based any of my work directly on his project, but will be referencing it as a similar one in the readme, as well as e.g. https://github.com/veteranbv/inky-bird-frame https://github.com/veteranbv/inky-bird-frame.
  - p1anecrazy 18d ago
    Please take my praise as well then :) what a wholesome project!
jdiff 18d ago
What is "the new one"? The old one used AI, and this one seems to as well.
- arnemunthekaas 18d ago
  Author here: It doesn't, well at least not art-wise. All sources are attributed in https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/artwork/classic/manifest.json https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/a... and https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/artwork/classic/ATTRIBUTION.md https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/a...
  - coinfused 18d ago
    This is much appreciated! Thanks for making this decision
- stetrain 18d ago
  From the link: "Half the point of this project is showing off some amazing public-domain natural-history illustrations. Over 800 cut-outs covering more than 400 species, every one taken from a real plate and hand-curated for this project (no art is AI-generated, though some has been retouched with AI)."
  - xgulfie 18d ago
    Idk what "retouched with AI" means. Does it mean they used a segmentation model to cut out the shapes, or were they shoved through an imagegen and completely recreated?
    - dzhiurgis 17d ago
      At this point - does it even matter? AI photos are indistinguishable.
      - xgulfie 17d ago
        It matters to me because it claims to be "real, hand-cut 1800s bird illustrations" which is the whole appeal of this to me

The new one appears to use real art from real humans, instead of AI art that was fixed. And just because 2 things do the same job doesn't make one a "copy" of the other.

jiwidi 18d ago

My mistake for calling it "copy", should have said fork maybe (?) They are awful close to still require a reference to the original project imo. They are achieving the same output (identify birds and display them in a frame display all hosted in a raspberry pi) with that twist to how to generate the art.

arnemunthekaas 18d ago
Author here: I'll take any feedback and critisism. I haven't based any of my work directly on his project, but will be referencing it as a similar one in the readme, as well as e.g. https://github.com/veteranbv/inky-bird-frame https://github.com/veteranbv/inky-bird-frame.
- p1anecrazy 18d ago
  Please take my praise as well then :) what a wholesome project!

jdiff 18d ago

What is "the new one"? The old one used AI, and this one seems to as well.

arnemunthekaas 18d ago
Author here: It doesn't, well at least not art-wise. All sources are attributed in https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/artwork/classic/manifest.json https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/a... and https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/artwork/classic/ATTRIBUTION.md https://github.com/arnegiacomo/fugleramme/blob/main/assets/a...
- coinfused 18d ago
  This is much appreciated! Thanks for making this decision
stetrain 18d ago
From the link: "Half the point of this project is showing off some amazing public-domain natural-history illustrations. Over 800 cut-outs covering more than 400 species, every one taken from a real plate and hand-curated for this project (no art is AI-generated, though some has been retouched with AI)."
- xgulfie 18d ago
  Idk what "retouched with AI" means. Does it mean they used a segmentation model to cut out the shapes, or were they shoved through an imagegen and completely recreated?
  - dzhiurgis 17d ago
    At this point - does it even matter? AI photos are indistinguishable.
    - xgulfie 17d ago
      It matters to me because it claims to be "real, hand-cut 1800s bird illustrations" which is the whole appeal of this to me