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AI cameras won’t be accepted with open arms like the iPhone was 20 years ago. Might as well buy an Android if it’s an Android. For the mass market, the AI indu

AI cameras won’t be accepted with open arms like the iPhone was 20 years ago. Might as well buy an Android if it’s an Android. For the mass market, the AI industry has a trust problem.

fidotron 27d ago
This is like people that think FB is going under because they don't use it. ChatGPT is _enormous_. It doesn't matter if you don't trust it, half the planet does. They don't need to get the HN bubble on board. Edit to add: the absolute state of the replies to this. Hilarious.
- DarmokTanagra 27d ago
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- rtyy 27d ago
  You’re boosting too hard bro
- iAMkenough 27d ago
  Cope harder. How’s the Rabbit doing? Only the HN bubble is interested in a new publicly subsidized AI phone option, over the AI phone already in their pocket at least. Edit: what is this, Reddit?
  - phoghed 27d ago
    > Cope harder. > Edit: what is this, Reddit? Pick a lane brother
    - iAMkenough 27d ago
      I have regrets.
- ungovernableCat 27d ago
  I mean by your own logic you can say you're doing the same thing. You think smartphones will get disrupted because you're bored by the mature form factor. I don't see that happening unless the new hardware and the way people interact with it is truly "magical" in some sense. Smartphones as a mature device category have so many things going for them that anything new will likely come as a complement for them (which apple can capitalise on) vs a complete replacement.
  - fidotron 27d ago
    > you're bored by the mature form factor. Actually, no. It's the irrelevant changes, such as Liquid Glass, which are the problem, where we all are made to learn new stuff to keep some designers busy. > I don't see that happening unless the new hardware and the way people interact with it is truly "magical" in some sense. But a truly AI enabled interface _would be_ magical. Being able to have a phone where your interface to it is completely built around your preferences, and not change at the whim of some external designer, for example. Where apps are merely things it uses on your behalf in the background . . . Neither Apple or Google could do this because it would disrupt their own cash cows too much. There is also a lot of scope for using neural nets to drive peripherals (including moving parts) in non obvious ways which could add to it all.
    - iAMkenough 27d ago
      The AI enabled interface sounds like an Android launcher I can download to my Android-based phone that I already own. Facebook tried their own Android launcher too. You want me to buy another Android phone AND proprietary peripherals too? In this economy?
    - thewebguyd 27d ago
      > where we all are made to learn new stuff Liquid glass didn't require any relearning at all, the iOS interface changed aesthetics, not functionality. The OS has worked largely the same for the past 10 years since the iPhone X. But I fail to see how an AI generated interface would be any better. What if after several back and forth with the AI, it still can't get the design right for you just so? It's not deterministic, you might get a different result every time you open your phone. Expecting third party services to leave their APIs open just so OpenAI phones can consume them is awfully optimistic as the moment such a device becomes an existential threat to third parties, APIs will start getting locked down. By all means, OpenAI should try, not saying they shouldn't, but I'm not optimistic it'll be a success. The smartphone is already basically peak form factor. No one is going to want to carry around a second device, which is why every other AI device/pin is DOA. It has to come out of the gate ready to fully replace someone's smartphone and the surrounding ecosystem of it or it also is DOA. Good camera? Support spotify/apple music? messaging, video calls, airdrop/nearbyshare, works with smartwatches and fitness trackers, etc. If it doesn't, it will fail.
palmotea 27d ago
> AI cameras won’t be accepted with open arms like the iPhone was 20 years ago. Might as well buy an Android if it’s an Android. > For the mass market, the AI industry has a trust problem. Oh how far we've fallen! Everyone should invite an OpenAI into their homes to watch and hear their most intimate moments. Just think of the value! Next time someone fights with their spouse, the machine can email a summary with advice the next day! Mass bliss will surely follow!
- fragmede 27d ago
  Why do you say that like it's not already happening?

AI cameras won’t be accepted with open arms like the iPhone was 20 years ago. Might as well buy an Android if it’s an Android. For the mass market, the AI industry has a trust problem.

fidotron 27d ago

This is like people that think FB is going under because they don't use it. ChatGPT is _enormous_. It doesn't matter if you don't trust it, half the planet does. They don't need to get the HN bubble on board. Edit to add: the absolute state of the replies to this. Hilarious.

DarmokTanagra 27d ago
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rtyy 27d ago
You’re boosting too hard bro
iAMkenough 27d ago
Cope harder. How’s the Rabbit doing? Only the HN bubble is interested in a new publicly subsidized AI phone option, over the AI phone already in their pocket at least. Edit: what is this, Reddit?
- phoghed 27d ago
  > Cope harder. > Edit: what is this, Reddit? Pick a lane brother
  - iAMkenough 27d ago
    I have regrets.
ungovernableCat 27d ago
I mean by your own logic you can say you're doing the same thing. You think smartphones will get disrupted because you're bored by the mature form factor. I don't see that happening unless the new hardware and the way people interact with it is truly "magical" in some sense. Smartphones as a mature device category have so many things going for them that anything new will likely come as a complement for them (which apple can capitalise on) vs a complete replacement.
- fidotron 27d ago
  > you're bored by the mature form factor. Actually, no. It's the irrelevant changes, such as Liquid Glass, which are the problem, where we all are made to learn new stuff to keep some designers busy. > I don't see that happening unless the new hardware and the way people interact with it is truly "magical" in some sense. But a truly AI enabled interface _would be_ magical. Being able to have a phone where your interface to it is completely built around your preferences, and not change at the whim of some external designer, for example. Where apps are merely things it uses on your behalf in the background . . . Neither Apple or Google could do this because it would disrupt their own cash cows too much. There is also a lot of scope for using neural nets to drive peripherals (including moving parts) in non obvious ways which could add to it all.
  - iAMkenough 27d ago
    The AI enabled interface sounds like an Android launcher I can download to my Android-based phone that I already own. Facebook tried their own Android launcher too. You want me to buy another Android phone AND proprietary peripherals too? In this economy?
  - thewebguyd 27d ago
    > where we all are made to learn new stuff Liquid glass didn't require any relearning at all, the iOS interface changed aesthetics, not functionality. The OS has worked largely the same for the past 10 years since the iPhone X. But I fail to see how an AI generated interface would be any better. What if after several back and forth with the AI, it still can't get the design right for you just so? It's not deterministic, you might get a different result every time you open your phone. Expecting third party services to leave their APIs open just so OpenAI phones can consume them is awfully optimistic as the moment such a device becomes an existential threat to third parties, APIs will start getting locked down. By all means, OpenAI should try, not saying they shouldn't, but I'm not optimistic it'll be a success. The smartphone is already basically peak form factor. No one is going to want to carry around a second device, which is why every other AI device/pin is DOA. It has to come out of the gate ready to fully replace someone's smartphone and the surrounding ecosystem of it or it also is DOA. Good camera? Support spotify/apple music? messaging, video calls, airdrop/nearbyshare, works with smartwatches and fitness trackers, etc. If it doesn't, it will fail.

palmotea 27d ago

> AI cameras won’t be accepted with open arms like the iPhone was 20 years ago. Might as well buy an Android if it’s an Android. > For the mass market, the AI industry has a trust problem. Oh how far we've fallen! Everyone should invite an OpenAI into their homes to watch and hear their most intimate moments. Just think of the value! Next time someone fights with their spouse, the machine can email a summary with advice the next day! Mass bliss will surely follow!

fragmede 27d ago
Why do you say that like it's not already happening?