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History is written by the winners. The Nazis as an organization committed atrocities, yes, and their leadership was responsible for that. To the millions of bo

History is written by the winners. The Nazis as an organization committed atrocities, yes, and their leadership was responsible for that. To the millions of boots on the ground - in battles, not the relatively small number implicated in concentration camps - there wasn't good/evil. There were people we should shoot, and people we shouldn't. Blurring that line with tricks like those described puts non-combatants at risk, which is pretty evil. Dropping a nuclear bomb on a civilian population is also pretty evil.

lostlogin 14y ago
Exactly, and tee blurring or lines is easier to spot when you leave te US and UK out of it (despite their frequent abuses of human rights). What about French Vichy actions? Russian? And countless other more minor countries. Don't get me wrong, the worst side lost, but that didn't come without controversial and wrong behavior. Thhe non political NGO aid organizations chose to be independent, and involving them causes the potential for far reaching harm, without their consent.
DrJ 14y ago
don't forget internment camps
nikcub 14y ago
> History is written by the winners. Overused cliche line that doesn't mean anything and isn't true. The Soviets won World War 2, they won it more than the USA won World War 2 and more than the British or anybody else won World War 2 but we re-wrote their history as evil scumbags who committed atrocities during the war.
- bdunbar 14y ago
  > we re-wrote their history as evil scumbags who committed atrocities during the war. Re-writing was not needed. Stalin was an evil thug, just as bad in minor ways as Hitler.
  - nikcub 14y ago
    News of the massacre of thousands of Polish officers in Katyn in 1940[0] by the Soviet Union was hushed up by the Western Allies during the various 3-body conferences. It only came out after the war and when Cold War tension rose[1] Contrast this to when Dachau was liberated, where the western media were given an official tour and relayed pictures, stories and the news only days later. Eisenhower sent out a press release when Dachau was liberated[2], but kept quiet about Soviet atrocities. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre [1] http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/katyn-massacre-hushed-stalin-slaughter-polish-officers-released-memos-show-article-1.1156361 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/katyn-massacre-hush... [2] http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/dachau/dachau-01.html http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/dachau/dachau-01.html

lostlogin 14y ago

Exactly, and tee blurring or lines is easier to spot when you leave te US and UK out of it (despite their frequent abuses of human rights). What about French Vichy actions? Russian? And countless other more minor countries. Don't get me wrong, the worst side lost, but that didn't come without controversial and wrong behavior. Thhe non political NGO aid organizations chose to be independent, and involving them causes the potential for far reaching harm, without their consent.

DrJ 14y ago

don't forget internment camps

nikcub 14y ago

> History is written by the winners. Overused cliche line that doesn't mean anything and isn't true. The Soviets won World War 2, they won it more than the USA won World War 2 and more than the British or anybody else won World War 2 but we re-wrote their history as evil scumbags who committed atrocities during the war.

bdunbar 14y ago
> we re-wrote their history as evil scumbags who committed atrocities during the war. Re-writing was not needed. Stalin was an evil thug, just as bad in minor ways as Hitler.
- nikcub 14y ago
  News of the massacre of thousands of Polish officers in Katyn in 1940[0] by the Soviet Union was hushed up by the Western Allies during the various 3-body conferences. It only came out after the war and when Cold War tension rose[1] Contrast this to when Dachau was liberated, where the western media were given an official tour and relayed pictures, stories and the news only days later. Eisenhower sent out a press release when Dachau was liberated[2], but kept quiet about Soviet atrocities. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre [1] http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/katyn-massacre-hushed-stalin-slaughter-polish-officers-released-memos-show-article-1.1156361 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/katyn-massacre-hush... [2] http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/dachau/dachau-01.html http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/dachau/dachau-01.html