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Indonesia's dictator Suharto (who was put into power by the US) annexed West Papua in the 60's on behalf of US corporations. Indigenous groups united together t

by culi 17d ago

Indonesia's dictator Suharto (who was put into power by the US) annexed West Papua in the 60's on behalf of US corporations. Indigenous groups united together to form the Free Papua Movement (OPM) and wage a guerilla war of resistance. The resistance is ongoing and most of West Papua (which is basically a colony) and PNG (which is basically a banana republic) want reunification

netsharc 17d ago
Carved open whole mountains: https://imgsrv2.voi.id/kn25_PwLY-AF-WW29WhOyKglpuHx95_W7T90yZV_PD0/auto/1200/675/sm/1/bG9jYWw6Ly8vcHVibGlzaGVycy81MTI4MTUvMjAyNTA5MDkwMDE5LW1haW4uY3JvcHBlZF8xNzU3MzUxOTg3LmpwZWc.jpg https://imgsrv2.voi.id/kn25_PwLY-AF-WW29WhOyKglpuHx95_W7T90y... In regards to Suharto, it seems the 1965 coup attempt that got him into power was a surprise even to the US embassy in Jakarta, but of course they welcomed it, considering the previous president (Sukarno) was anti-imperialist and was flirting with the 3rd largest communist party in the world (after USSR's and China's). Somewhat relatedly, a documentary moviemaker realized what was behind the curtain of Indonesian society and said "it's as if I had wandered into Germany 40 years after the Holocaust only to find the Nazis still in power.". He made a documentary following a man who was sanctioned by the Suharto regime to kill a lot of "communists" in 1960's Indonesia: The Act of Killing (available at e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TDeEObjR9Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TDeEObjR9Q ). A review: > Joshua Oppenheimer’s The Act of Killing is a challenging documentary. It is not only difficult to watch, but it also probes into one of the most grotesque aspects of human nature: the capacity for self-delusion in the face of horrific atrocities. This isn’t a film about history, facts, or statistics; it’s about the memories of the men who killed, the stories they tell themselves, and how they continue to live with the horrors they’ve inflicted on others. The film’s power lies in its ability to take the viewer beyond a surface-level understanding of evil and into the psychological abyss of those who have committed atrocities—and seemingly moved on with their lives. From: https://docthisway.com/2024/09/23/the-act-of-killing-review/ https://docthisway.com/2024/09/23/the-act-of-killing-review/
- szatkus 17d ago
  The link is down. Did anyone from here report the movie?
  - netsharc 17d ago
    This one works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKoP2PnU60s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKoP2PnU60s Sorry, I copy/pasted half my reply from an old comment.
    - mo7061 17d ago
      Still doesn’t work
      - deleted 17d ago
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      - netsharc 17d ago
        Shrugs. Works for me. Sorry YouTube regional-based DRM (presumably) is fucking you. Director's name and documentary title is available, you're going to need to search it for yourself.
        cylemons 17d ago
        Worked for me
  - deleted 17d ago
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- hermitcrab 17d ago
  I hear 'The Act of Killing' is an amazing film. But I am not sure if I can bring myself to watch it.
  - tim333 17d ago
papua_is_being_ 17d ago
> The resistance is ongoing and most of West Papua I'm unsure if that's an accurate description. I would say it is more accurate to say that West Papua is being genocided. Indigenous West Papuans are being genocided by settlers from Java. More than 500,000 West Papuans have been killed according to estimates by indigenous groups. It is hard to verify since Javanese settlers (Prabowo is Javanese) control the army and no media or journalists, and not even Indonesians are allowed to enter West Papua. This year, thousands of excavators were shipped on barges into West Papua. Western corporations like Freeport McMoran are complicit. It is horrific to see videos that have come out. There is one which I saw, I still get nightmares. It is an indigenous Papuan man being skinned alive in a drum of water. The name that was spread was Defianus Kogoya. It is so sad... West Papua was one of the most beautiful places on this planet with inland seawater lakes that had non-venomous jellyfish in Misool. Cave systems with handprints said to pre-date the Toba erruption. All of this being destroyed.
- jesterson 17d ago
  > I would say it is more accurate to say that West Papua is being genocided I can just add it has been going on for a while in recent history and noone talks about it. Gives you opportunity to think how deeply flawed our media is.
  - cwmoore 17d ago
    Save the orangutans? or sell more Oreos? Hmmm
  - Henchman21 17d ago
    “The media” are simply a mouthpiece for the ultra-wealthy. Basically their propaganda arm.
    - culi 17d ago
      I obviously think this is an oversimplification but I've also slowly come to believe this is basically accurate. Reading the history of the Guatemala coup that the US did and the role the NYTimes played in it is very convincing evidence for this view
Rover222 17d ago
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whou 17d ago
Paradise Broadcasting also made an incredible documentary[0] on the bombing of OPM by the Indonesian government. The follow up videos are great as well. [0]: https://youtu.be/65_DgLwjePA https://youtu.be/65_DgLwjePA
hitekker 17d ago
> Suharto (who was put into power by the US) Suharto was responsible for his own rise. He took money and intel from wherever he liked and was basically an independent & ruthless strongman. Neither he nor other Indonesians need to be infantilized by lazy neocolonial narratives.
- culi 15d ago
  The coup was literally armed and equipped by the US. The US provided intelligence, made the plan, did the homework. They even gave them list of targets. Wherever you wanna draw the line, no one would seriously deny that he could've gained power without the US. The US' strategy to use a proxy to commit heinous crimes against humanity is named after this event. It's called the Jakarta Method.

by culi 17d ago

netsharc 17d ago

Carved open whole mountains: https://imgsrv2.voi.id/kn25_PwLY-AF-WW29WhOyKglpuHx95_W7T90yZV_PD0/auto/1200/675/sm/1/bG9jYWw6Ly8vcHVibGlzaGVycy81MTI4MTUvMjAyNTA5MDkwMDE5LW1haW4uY3JvcHBlZF8xNzU3MzUxOTg3LmpwZWc.jpg https://imgsrv2.voi.id/kn25_PwLY-AF-WW29WhOyKglpuHx95_W7T90y... In regards to Suharto, it seems the 1965 coup attempt that got him into power was a surprise even to the US embassy in Jakarta, but of course they welcomed it, considering the previous president (Sukarno) was anti-imperialist and was flirting with the 3rd largest communist party in the world (after USSR's and China's). Somewhat relatedly, a documentary moviemaker realized what was behind the curtain of Indonesian society and said "it's as if I had wandered into Germany 40 years after the Holocaust only to find the Nazis still in power.". He made a documentary following a man who was sanctioned by the Suharto regime to kill a lot of "communists" in 1960's Indonesia: The Act of Killing (available at e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TDeEObjR9Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TDeEObjR9Q ). A review: > Joshua Oppenheimer’s The Act of Killing is a challenging documentary. It is not only difficult to watch, but it also probes into one of the most grotesque aspects of human nature: the capacity for self-delusion in the face of horrific atrocities. This isn’t a film about history, facts, or statistics; it’s about the memories of the men who killed, the stories they tell themselves, and how they continue to live with the horrors they’ve inflicted on others. The film’s power lies in its ability to take the viewer beyond a surface-level understanding of evil and into the psychological abyss of those who have committed atrocities—and seemingly moved on with their lives. From: https://docthisway.com/2024/09/23/the-act-of-killing-review/ https://docthisway.com/2024/09/23/the-act-of-killing-review/

szatkus 17d ago
The link is down. Did anyone from here report the movie?
- netsharc 17d ago
  This one works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKoP2PnU60s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKoP2PnU60s Sorry, I copy/pasted half my reply from an old comment.
  - mo7061 17d ago
    Still doesn’t work
    - deleted 17d ago
      [deleted]
    - netsharc 17d ago
      Shrugs. Works for me. Sorry YouTube regional-based DRM (presumably) is fucking you. Director's name and documentary title is available, you're going to need to search it for yourself.
      - cylemons 17d ago
        Worked for me
- deleted 17d ago
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hermitcrab 17d ago
I hear 'The Act of Killing' is an amazing film. But I am not sure if I can bring myself to watch it.
- tim333 17d ago

papua_is_being_ 17d ago

> The resistance is ongoing and most of West Papua I'm unsure if that's an accurate description. I would say it is more accurate to say that West Papua is being genocided. Indigenous West Papuans are being genocided by settlers from Java. More than 500,000 West Papuans have been killed according to estimates by indigenous groups. It is hard to verify since Javanese settlers (Prabowo is Javanese) control the army and no media or journalists, and not even Indonesians are allowed to enter West Papua. This year, thousands of excavators were shipped on barges into West Papua. Western corporations like Freeport McMoran are complicit. It is horrific to see videos that have come out. There is one which I saw, I still get nightmares. It is an indigenous Papuan man being skinned alive in a drum of water. The name that was spread was Defianus Kogoya. It is so sad... West Papua was one of the most beautiful places on this planet with inland seawater lakes that had non-venomous jellyfish in Misool. Cave systems with handprints said to pre-date the Toba erruption. All of this being destroyed.

jesterson 17d ago
> I would say it is more accurate to say that West Papua is being genocided I can just add it has been going on for a while in recent history and noone talks about it. Gives you opportunity to think how deeply flawed our media is.
- cwmoore 17d ago
  Save the orangutans? or sell more Oreos? Hmmm
- Henchman21 17d ago
  “The media” are simply a mouthpiece for the ultra-wealthy. Basically their propaganda arm.
  - culi 17d ago
    I obviously think this is an oversimplification but I've also slowly come to believe this is basically accurate. Reading the history of the Guatemala coup that the US did and the role the NYTimes played in it is very convincing evidence for this view

Rover222 17d ago

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whou 17d ago

Paradise Broadcasting also made an incredible documentary[0] on the bombing of OPM by the Indonesian government. The follow up videos are great as well. [0]: https://youtu.be/65_DgLwjePA https://youtu.be/65_DgLwjePA

hitekker 17d ago

> Suharto (who was put into power by the US) Suharto was responsible for his own rise. He took money and intel from wherever he liked and was basically an independent & ruthless strongman. Neither he nor other Indonesians need to be infantilized by lazy neocolonial narratives.

culi 15d ago
The coup was literally armed and equipped by the US. The US provided intelligence, made the plan, did the homework. They even gave them list of targets. Wherever you wanna draw the line, no one would seriously deny that he could've gained power without the US. The US' strategy to use a proxy to commit heinous crimes against humanity is named after this event. It's called the Jakarta Method.