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> It's so politically charged now that people's brains just turn off and everyone calls each other Nazis. What's worse is when people's brains just turn off an
by DonHopkins 14d ago
> It's so politically charged now that people's brains just turn off and everyone calls each other Nazis.
What's worse is when people's brains just turn off and they defend and support an actual trillionaire Nazi with immense political power and an international propaganda platform.
You're replying to someone who is on the record defending Musk's Nazi salute by calling people names and attacking anyone who recognizes it for what it is or points out how it aligns with everything else Musk has said and done.
Set showdead=true and read his posting history. If he didn't want people reading his full-throated defense of Musk's Nazi salute and his attacks on anyone who disagrees, he shouldn't have posted them. Nevertheless, he'll attack you for merely reading it, as if you're the weirdo for reading what he intentionally posted, rather than him for posting it publicly.
Ask him to post a video of himself performing that Nazi salute and he flips out and calls you names. So he plainly understands what it means: he thinks it's defensible when a trillionaire oligarch does it on international television, and feels obligated to defend it himself, but would never perform that exact same Nazi salute himself -- and becomes irrational and hostile when asked to explain why not.
By "calling people names," I mean his own words:
Political: "social justice warriors," "in an echo chamber," "literally fascism," "a bit fascist," "silencing the opposition," and "censoring others."
Mental-health smears: "lost their mind," "consistently hostile," "frustrated," "so upset," "getting angry," "unhealthy," "unhinged," "What is wrong with you?" and "Maybe they can get you the help you need."
Dishonesty and stupidity: "are you pretending to be stupid here?", "your 'act'," "projecting," "lying and spreading lies," and "I'm here in good faith (unlike you)."
Personal attacks: "emotionally attached," "unable to take criticism," "convinced that no matter what, you're right," "used to always having your way," "reevaluate your life choices," "I find your conduct pretty embarrassing here," "You need to self-reflect," and "You need to cool down."
That's his argument technique: replace evidence with ideological labels, personal attacks, tone-policing, reality-reversal, and amateur psychiatric diagnoses. Precisely the nuance-free, brain-off political name-calling you rightly warned against.
- r_lee 13d agoHow are you so obsessed with me? this is insane. > Nevertheless, he'll attack you for merely reading it, as if you're the weirdo for reading what he intentionally posted, rather than him for posting it publicly. this is just false information and you know it, I have posted everything in plain view for you and everybody else, see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49671155 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49671155 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49678118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49678118 again like I said: "I have gone out of my way to be reasonable with you and argue with you in good faith, and you keep bringing insults and accusations and keep implying that I'm a Nazi or something. Think about it, you're so upset over the fact that I don't consider a colored block drag and drop interface/system a real programming language that's used in the real world that you're doing all this and constantly attacking me and getting angry over my very reasonable arguments It's unhealthy and you should maybe ask one of those friends if what you're doing is reasonable or not. Maybe they can get you the help you need." full context is at: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49678118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49678118 along with his dead comments (assuming the mods removed them)
- DonHopkins 12d agoYou said every one of those words I quoted. Are you trying to gaslight and deny that easily checked fact now? Trying to defend Musk making Nazi salutes by calling people names is insane, and that's precisely what you did, and what your posting history proves. Prove you're right by posting a video of yourself making the exact same Nazi salute as Musk did, which you defended. Why won't you do that?
- r_lee 12d agoonly someone who is seriously disturbed would do this for days on end over something so silly as a programming language I have never called anyone names because they read my post history, I've in fact put links so people can go read everything I've written at their pleasure, which you called something like "boot licking comments that don't deserve to be linked" and for example "are you pretending to be stupid here?" was me repeating what you said to me, same with "your act". why are you upset that I used the exact words you threw at me? and really, "unable to take criticism", "convinced that no matter what, you're right", "You need to cool down" and etc. are personal attacks? why are you so obsessed with me that you find the need to follow me around HN and post this stuff under my replies? like this is ridiculous
- DonHopkins 12d ago[dead]
- r_lee 12d agowho are you to tell me to do anything? it is your opinion that that was a Nazi salute. I do not believe Elon is a Nazi who praises Hitler, otherwise why wouldn't everyone have cut ties with him? there are millions and millions of people who also believe he is not a Nazi, are you going to go after every single one of them too?
- DonHopkins 12d ago