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It is still not multi language. I mean I can talk to ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, fucking Grok in any language I want and it will understand / respond in given lang

by eknkc 13d ago

It is still not multi language. I mean I can talk to ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, fucking Grok in any language I want and it will understand / respond in given language. Apple being Apple, I have to choose a language in Siri menu and it has to be the phone language for some reason.. Otherwise it downgrades to old Siri. Apple's incompetence in AI / Assistant etc stuff has to be studied.

wowoc 13d ago
I think Apple's top-down approach is showing here. Google is more bottom-up, which has its flaws, but it's more suited for cases like this one. I seems that unless one of Apple's higher-ups notices a problem nobody is going to do anything. For example, Android and Google Assistant has had excellent support for Polish for more than a decade. Siri still doesn't support Polish at all, even though all of Apple's AI suppliers support Polish perfectly well...
friendzis 13d ago
> Apple's incompetence in AI / Assistant etc stuff has to be studied. Why should Apple focus on technical excellence when the company and their products are touted for literally gimmicks? In the end this is what brings the money and profits through the door, can't blame a company for providing what the market craves.
- dansquizsoft 13d ago
  The market craves good AI experiences... But that doesn't mean Apple is capable of delivering it at this stage.
  - ben_w 13d ago
    Does the market crave good AI experiences? LLMs are eating software, maths, and LinkedIn posts; some of the image generators are seeing similar (limited) success. Other than that, my general impression is that most people think of even the best as garbage. ("Other than". In fairness, most people thought LinkedIn posts were already garbage, it's just that it wasn't made any worse by LLMs).
  - friendzis 13d ago
    This post is a testament that mobile AI experience on Android is much better and yet iphones are not really losing market share to that.
jiggawatts 13d ago
What is amazing to me is that when driving, Siri used to read out messages sent to me in other languages in the original language. Now it just says something like "A message in a different language".
dansquizsoft 13d ago
I just don't think they have it in them to be a leader in a new, experimental tech like this. They took like 7 years to come out with a foldable iPhone remember - lol!

by eknkc 13d ago

wowoc 13d ago

I think Apple's top-down approach is showing here. Google is more bottom-up, which has its flaws, but it's more suited for cases like this one. I seems that unless one of Apple's higher-ups notices a problem nobody is going to do anything. For example, Android and Google Assistant has had excellent support for Polish for more than a decade. Siri still doesn't support Polish at all, even though all of Apple's AI suppliers support Polish perfectly well...

friendzis 13d ago

> Apple's incompetence in AI / Assistant etc stuff has to be studied. Why should Apple focus on technical excellence when the company and their products are touted for literally gimmicks? In the end this is what brings the money and profits through the door, can't blame a company for providing what the market craves.

dansquizsoft 13d ago
The market craves good AI experiences... But that doesn't mean Apple is capable of delivering it at this stage.
- ben_w 13d ago
  Does the market crave good AI experiences? LLMs are eating software, maths, and LinkedIn posts; some of the image generators are seeing similar (limited) success. Other than that, my general impression is that most people think of even the best as garbage. ("Other than". In fairness, most people thought LinkedIn posts were already garbage, it's just that it wasn't made any worse by LLMs).
- friendzis 13d ago
  This post is a testament that mobile AI experience on Android is much better and yet iphones are not really losing market share to that.

jiggawatts 13d ago

What is amazing to me is that when driving, Siri used to read out messages sent to me in other languages in the original language. Now it just says something like "A message in a different language".

dansquizsoft 13d ago

I just don't think they have it in them to be a leader in a new, experimental tech like this. They took like 7 years to come out with a foldable iPhone remember - lol!