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It won’t happen, but if it did the CEOs have no one but themselves to blame. They’re hyping up their products as being able to destroy the human race then are s

by afavour 17d ago

It won’t happen, but if it did the CEOs have no one but themselves to blame. They’re hyping up their products as being able to destroy the human race then are somehow surprised at the level of anti-AI sentiment out there in the world.

mikrl 17d ago
I honestly don’t know what anyone expected given all the labs started building self-driving malware at about the same time. I remember lots of people talking about running agents in VMs or on whole dedicated machines, yet barely anyone talking about how they were using mundane OS access controls.
pjc50 17d ago
If the nuclear power or life sciences people were putting out press releases saying "our product may kill us all", they'd be dragged into endless Congressional inquiries.
- nfujd7 17d ago
  Wasnt the Oppenheimer story basically that?
  - pjc50 17d ago
    There was https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2019/09/12/the_fear_that_a_nuclear_bomb_could_ignite_the_atmosphere.html https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2019/09/12/the_fear_th... , but that was (validly) dismissed by other scientists working on it, and also wasn't a discussion that was happening in public because the entire program was secret. "This will kill a lot of (other) people" was explicit in the building of the bomb, but then so was the entire war effort.
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verdverm 17d ago
> level of anti-AI sentiment out there in the world. I'd caution about projecting Western Ai attitudes onto the rest of the world. Some countries are very excited and optimistic about the future it brings, cultures and circumstances give rise to differences in opinions. One of many results showing a similar pattern, largely bifurcated along "the west" vs "the rest", or "modern economies" vs "third world" ("common terms" used even though I'm not a fan of them) https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2026-ai-index-report/public-opinion https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2026-ai-index-report/publi...
- chneu 17d ago
  Even in the western world most anti-ai sentiment ends on social media. People are anti-ai cuz it's easy. They say something, repost or like something, and they're anti-ai. Then they turnaround and use AI in their email or calendar or to make funny pics or whatever. They watch AI generated content and engage with it. Anti-AI is pretty NIMBY. People want AI, they just don't want AI data centers in their area or to give up their use/privilege.
  - esseph 17d ago
    > Even in the western world most anti-ai sentiment ends on social media No. There's a lot of local regulations being enacted to prevent datacenter builds.
    - verdverm 17d ago
      While I agree that it goes beyond social media, I don't believe your statement is evidence to such. I would call that more the manifestation of anti-Ai sentiment wherever they pick it up. I suspect it's popular because it has been a long long time since The People felt like government had been responsive, so they are doubling down, ad nausium
2OEH8eoCRo0 17d ago
It's bizarre that hyping your product as a doomsday machine is good for your stock. If they're right then what will any of these investments be good for?
jgalt212 16d ago
> They’re hyping up their products as being able to destroy the human race then are somehow surprised at the level of anti-AI sentiment out there in the world. You hit the proverbial nail on the head there!

by afavour 17d ago

mikrl 17d ago

I honestly don’t know what anyone expected given all the labs started building self-driving malware at about the same time. I remember lots of people talking about running agents in VMs or on whole dedicated machines, yet barely anyone talking about how they were using mundane OS access controls.

pjc50 17d ago

If the nuclear power or life sciences people were putting out press releases saying "our product may kill us all", they'd be dragged into endless Congressional inquiries.

nfujd7 17d ago
Wasnt the Oppenheimer story basically that?
- pjc50 17d ago
  There was https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2019/09/12/the_fear_that_a_nuclear_bomb_could_ignite_the_atmosphere.html https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2019/09/12/the_fear_th... , but that was (validly) dismissed by other scientists working on it, and also wasn't a discussion that was happening in public because the entire program was secret. "This will kill a lot of (other) people" was explicit in the building of the bomb, but then so was the entire war effort.
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verdverm 17d ago

> level of anti-AI sentiment out there in the world. I'd caution about projecting Western Ai attitudes onto the rest of the world. Some countries are very excited and optimistic about the future it brings, cultures and circumstances give rise to differences in opinions. One of many results showing a similar pattern, largely bifurcated along "the west" vs "the rest", or "modern economies" vs "third world" ("common terms" used even though I'm not a fan of them) https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2026-ai-index-report/public-opinion https://hai.stanford.edu/ai-index/2026-ai-index-report/publi...

chneu 17d ago
Even in the western world most anti-ai sentiment ends on social media. People are anti-ai cuz it's easy. They say something, repost or like something, and they're anti-ai. Then they turnaround and use AI in their email or calendar or to make funny pics or whatever. They watch AI generated content and engage with it. Anti-AI is pretty NIMBY. People want AI, they just don't want AI data centers in their area or to give up their use/privilege.
- esseph 17d ago
  > Even in the western world most anti-ai sentiment ends on social media No. There's a lot of local regulations being enacted to prevent datacenter builds.
  - verdverm 17d ago
    While I agree that it goes beyond social media, I don't believe your statement is evidence to such. I would call that more the manifestation of anti-Ai sentiment wherever they pick it up. I suspect it's popular because it has been a long long time since The People felt like government had been responsive, so they are doubling down, ad nausium

2OEH8eoCRo0 17d ago

It's bizarre that hyping your product as a doomsday machine is good for your stock. If they're right then what will any of these investments be good for?

jgalt212 16d ago

> They’re hyping up their products as being able to destroy the human race then are somehow surprised at the level of anti-AI sentiment out there in the world. You hit the proverbial nail on the head there!