3 ms·

Siri AI feels like a beta version (I think it officially is?). It’s unaware indexing isn’t done yet so it just tells me “I can’t find any photos of Italy” altho

Siri AI feels like a beta version (I think it officially is?). It’s unaware indexing isn’t done yet so it just tells me “I can’t find any photos of Italy” although there’s many thousands. Then it tells me how to let it access my photos using nonexistent iOS settings, even though permissions aren’t the problem. Amateurish.

bamboozled 12d ago
Siri is a really bad product, holy shit.
sneak 12d ago
Apple’s scatterbrained OS-bundled software is just embarrassing at this point. Half-baked release after half-baked release. I’m convinced that modern Apple simply can’t ship good software any longer. The “headline features simply must not slip” cadence is ruining the products. The moneymaker, the iPhone, needs the new OS to work (iPhone 18 hardware has never run on iOS 26), so the OS release can’t be delayed for any reason. The other OSes are lashed to this sinking ship, quality-wise, because they all come out together. Once per year, everyone has to crunch against an impossible deadline, and something has to give. That thing is quality.
- pvab3 12d ago
  Its crazy to insist on releasing all new operating systems for these devices at the same time. I didn't realize they were doing that. If one team is behind they would still have to ship it anyway
  - sneak 12d ago
    This is precisely what it is, which is why 27.0.1 will come out so rapidly, and will fix the immediate jank, and then 27.1 the next month (tbh it is probably already massively underway right now and 27.0.1 is likely in testing).
- gib444 12d ago
  I agree. I worked at a company where we transitioned to big releases aligned with a yearly event and it was a disaster. It became all about marketing and bodges.
safeimp 12d ago
Yes, I've been encountering this for weeks (because that's how long it has taken indexing to run...) and my workaround has been to switch to GooglePhotos since I backup everything to it. Apple search in Photos has always been garbage so I almost always flip over to Google Photos anyway.
baby 11d ago
At this point Gemini has been fully integrated in android for like 2 years, why is Apple so behind?
NoPicklez 11d ago
Why don't you therefore just wait until indexing is done?
- anhner 11d ago
  Ah yes, the pleasures of paying $1000+ dollars for a phone whose developers can't even bother to add an `if (!indexingDone)`. I'll answer your question though: because it doesn't show anywhere the progress of the indexing.
  - jahnu 11d ago
    https://www.bugsappleloves.com/ https://www.bugsappleloves.com/ It's on the list there alright.
- hahamaster 11d ago
  Why Apple doesn't say "I'm sorry but your photos aren't accessible because they are being sorted and indexed at the moment"? I didn't know in advance why Siri can't access my photos (turns out it's because indexing isn't done) - at the beginning I thought there was some sort of other problem. Later I figured out (after going through privacy/permissions stuff) that it's too stupid to know why it can't see my photos. Amateurish.
eknkc 11d ago
It is still not multi language. I mean I can talk to ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, fucking Grok in any language I want and it will understand / respond in given language. Apple being Apple, I have to choose a language in Siri menu and it has to be the phone language for some reason.. Otherwise it downgrades to old Siri. Apple's incompetence in AI / Assistant etc stuff has to be studied.
- wowoc 11d ago
  I think Apple's top-down approach is showing here. Google is more bottom-up, which has its flaws, but it's more suited for cases like this one. I seems that unless one of Apple's higher-ups notices a problem nobody is going to do anything. For example, Android and Google Assistant has had excellent support for Polish for more than a decade. Siri still doesn't support Polish at all, even though all of Apple's AI suppliers support Polish perfectly well...
- friendzis 11d ago
  > Apple's incompetence in AI / Assistant etc stuff has to be studied. Why should Apple focus on technical excellence when the company and their products are touted for literally gimmicks? In the end this is what brings the money and profits through the door, can't blame a company for providing what the market craves.
  - dansquizsoft 11d ago
    The market craves good AI experiences... But that doesn't mean Apple is capable of delivering it at this stage.
    - ben_w 11d ago
      Does the market crave good AI experiences? LLMs are eating software, maths, and LinkedIn posts; some of the image generators are seeing similar (limited) success. Other than that, my general impression is that most people think of even the best as garbage. ("Other than". In fairness, most people thought LinkedIn posts were already garbage, it's just that it wasn't made any worse by LLMs).
sammularczyk 11d ago
My phone kept saying it couldn't find anything, until I realised I turned off Spotlight Suggestions for photos, contacts, mail etc. Once I turned them on, Siri could access it.
dabinat 11d ago
It blows my mind that a trillion-dollar company with the ability to attract the world’s top talent has struggled for years to make a chatbot.

bamboozled 12d ago

Siri is a really bad product, holy shit.

sneak 12d ago

Apple’s scatterbrained OS-bundled software is just embarrassing at this point. Half-baked release after half-baked release. I’m convinced that modern Apple simply can’t ship good software any longer. The “headline features simply must not slip” cadence is ruining the products. The moneymaker, the iPhone, needs the new OS to work (iPhone 18 hardware has never run on iOS 26), so the OS release can’t be delayed for any reason. The other OSes are lashed to this sinking ship, quality-wise, because they all come out together. Once per year, everyone has to crunch against an impossible deadline, and something has to give. That thing is quality.

pvab3 12d ago
Its crazy to insist on releasing all new operating systems for these devices at the same time. I didn't realize they were doing that. If one team is behind they would still have to ship it anyway
- sneak 12d ago
  This is precisely what it is, which is why 27.0.1 will come out so rapidly, and will fix the immediate jank, and then 27.1 the next month (tbh it is probably already massively underway right now and 27.0.1 is likely in testing).
gib444 12d ago
I agree. I worked at a company where we transitioned to big releases aligned with a yearly event and it was a disaster. It became all about marketing and bodges.

safeimp 12d ago

Yes, I've been encountering this for weeks (because that's how long it has taken indexing to run...) and my workaround has been to switch to GooglePhotos since I backup everything to it. Apple search in Photos has always been garbage so I almost always flip over to Google Photos anyway.

baby 11d ago

At this point Gemini has been fully integrated in android for like 2 years, why is Apple so behind?

NoPicklez 11d ago

Why don't you therefore just wait until indexing is done?

anhner 11d ago
Ah yes, the pleasures of paying $1000+ dollars for a phone whose developers can't even bother to add an `if (!indexingDone)`. I'll answer your question though: because it doesn't show anywhere the progress of the indexing.
- jahnu 11d ago
  https://www.bugsappleloves.com/ https://www.bugsappleloves.com/ It's on the list there alright.
hahamaster 11d ago
Why Apple doesn't say "I'm sorry but your photos aren't accessible because they are being sorted and indexed at the moment"? I didn't know in advance why Siri can't access my photos (turns out it's because indexing isn't done) - at the beginning I thought there was some sort of other problem. Later I figured out (after going through privacy/permissions stuff) that it's too stupid to know why it can't see my photos. Amateurish.

eknkc 11d ago

It is still not multi language. I mean I can talk to ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, fucking Grok in any language I want and it will understand / respond in given language. Apple being Apple, I have to choose a language in Siri menu and it has to be the phone language for some reason.. Otherwise it downgrades to old Siri. Apple's incompetence in AI / Assistant etc stuff has to be studied.

wowoc 11d ago
I think Apple's top-down approach is showing here. Google is more bottom-up, which has its flaws, but it's more suited for cases like this one. I seems that unless one of Apple's higher-ups notices a problem nobody is going to do anything. For example, Android and Google Assistant has had excellent support for Polish for more than a decade. Siri still doesn't support Polish at all, even though all of Apple's AI suppliers support Polish perfectly well...
friendzis 11d ago
> Apple's incompetence in AI / Assistant etc stuff has to be studied. Why should Apple focus on technical excellence when the company and their products are touted for literally gimmicks? In the end this is what brings the money and profits through the door, can't blame a company for providing what the market craves.
- dansquizsoft 11d ago
  The market craves good AI experiences... But that doesn't mean Apple is capable of delivering it at this stage.
  - ben_w 11d ago
    Does the market crave good AI experiences? LLMs are eating software, maths, and LinkedIn posts; some of the image generators are seeing similar (limited) success. Other than that, my general impression is that most people think of even the best as garbage. ("Other than". In fairness, most people thought LinkedIn posts were already garbage, it's just that it wasn't made any worse by LLMs).

sammularczyk 11d ago

My phone kept saying it couldn't find anything, until I realised I turned off Spotlight Suggestions for photos, contacts, mail etc. Once I turned them on, Siri could access it.

dabinat 11d ago

It blows my mind that a trillion-dollar company with the ability to attract the world’s top talent has struggled for years to make a chatbot.