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Cool story bro? I remember a whole lot of people who complained about the debt during the Obama years (I was right there with them), who are now completely sile

Cool story bro? I remember a whole lot of people who complained about the debt during the Obama years (I was right there with them), who are now completely silent or even full-throated support. Perhaps a few of the more "honest" ones you might be able to get a "I don't like everything he does" out of them. If I recall though, you personally did support Obama? Which would make your point doubly moot. Also note that my condemnation wasn't just about the debt per se, but rather the decreasing creditworthiness. Say what you will about Obama (I certainly have), but at least he kept up relations with our allies so they saw us as a strong partner worthy of holding their wealth.

rayiner 11d ago
> If I recall though, you personally did support Obama? Which would make your point doubly moot. I did personally support Obama. I still think he was a pretty good President! I’m simply describing the chart I linked to of debt levels on a log scale. Obama increased the slope of debt growth around 2010 and it has stayed around the same slope, with a vertical jump during covid. The point is that the debt growth rate isn’t a Trump thing. It’s the “new normal” since Obama, Trump, Biden, and Trump again.
- mindslight 11d ago
  So you were "simply" responding to one small part of my comment, with a narrative that sane-washes the whole larger picture. If you personally don't care about the debt, that's fine. But there are a lot of people who had claimed to, who have now turned their denial circuits up to 11. My "$40T more in the hole" aside was aimed at them.