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> Prevented Fact: There was no world war. Impossible to prove hypothesis: nuclear weapons prevented a world war. Facing the facts about nuclear weapons means
by fn-mote 11d ago
> Prevented
Fact: There was no world war.
Impossible to prove hypothesis: nuclear weapons prevented a world war.
Facing the facts about nuclear weapons means owning the good (probably prevented wars) and the bad (at the very least there were severe environmental and economic consequences).
- fooker 11d agoThis is not mathematical logic. Of course you can't prove the causality of anything in history. The only way to do that would be to invent a time machine, delete the nukes and watch things play out. There are direct quotes from Nixon and Reagan that claims this to be true. That is enough evidence for me.
- platinumrad 11d agoSurely we can do better than Nixon and Reagan.
- fooker 11d agoIn terms of politics, sure. In terms of cold war presidents itching to start wars, no.
- otabdeveloper4 11d ago> Fact: There was no world war. Akshually there is, and WW3 has been going on since 2010. (Mostly in places that aren't Europe.)
- verdverm 11d agoSome people believe WW2 started many years earlier, but most historians don't put the start date at the conflicts going on before the war became intercontinental with sides working together on a global scale. War has still been going on since 1945, much earlier if not always, so akshually WW2 never ended or is just how it's always been? (mostly in places that are not "first world" / The West)
- otabdeveloper4 11d agoThere's a simple and very logical definition of what a "world war" is - it's when international law completely breaks down, and the only way to get back to a semblance of order in international relations is to have the victors of the ensuing shitstorm impose a new set of rules in some sort of grand finale pact. 1945 was clearly that. 1920 with the League of Nations attempted to be that, but failed. Whatever happens after the current turbulence we can be sure that there won't be a UN and NATO and a World Bank at the end. P.S. The first modern world war was the Thirty Year's War.
- verdverm 11d ago> Whatever happens after the current turbulence we can be sure Have you put your money behind this on future gambling sites? How can you be so sure?
- otabdeveloper4 10d agoBecause the UN, NATO, etc., are clearly not working now. They're not gonna be fixed to work as designed because that's quite impossible in today's world.
- slipperybeluga 11d ago[dead]
- verdverm 11d agoThe Cold War was the best possible outcome. The alternatives (super power hot war, nuclear armageddon) did not happen. Nuclear weapon potential was a large part of that, as was direct lines of communication. Unfortunately because the later is no longer a thing, and our president declined to extend the existing agreement (a problematic pattern), we now again face proliferation of nuclear weapons.