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I very much appreciate gandi.net. Read their no bullshit™ policy :) https://www.gandi.net/no-bullshit https://www.gandi.net/no-bullshit

by Spoygg 14y ago

3825 14y ago
I was told to avoid registering and hosting at the same company. What do you think about that?
- shanehudson 14y ago
  Sounds like good advice to me.
  - Spoygg 14y ago
    Please elaborate, thanks :)
    - shanehudson 14y ago
      Well for a start, using the same company will make it much harder to move. Often the price shoots up after a year too. And then there is the risk of somebody getting access, it is easier usually to hack a website than a registrar so a cracker or their could get access to your domain through a security flaw in your website. Also, companies are usually either better at domain management or hosting rather than both, I have huge respect for good support teams like Krystal Hosting have,which is easier when they are focused. I'm not saying don't use the same company, but I always tend to prefer them separate.
      - Spoygg 14y ago
        I understood question: "I was told to avoid registering and hosting at the same company. What do you think about that?" as "I was told to avoid registering and hosting at gandi.net. What do you think about that?" If it was meant as asked than there maybe some truth to it. But than again if you are confident in how some company handles one area than that may give some credibility of their work in other areas. When I started using gandi they were just a domain registrar. And I am yet to use them as hosting provider. I agree somewhat with your view, it can be true in some cases :)
- Spoygg 14y ago
  I do not think about that until you give some examples or actual records.
dangrossman 14y ago
Have you read their actual contract terms instead of their marketing materials? If any content on your website (even if user-generated) violates their "code of ethics", Gandi can take your domain from you. There's pretty much no way to run any kind of forum, blog with comments, website with any adult content, or even a site which simply expresses opinions that are not legal in another country, without giving Gandi the contractual right to take your domain and kill your site whenever they want. And good luck explaining that your definition of "hacking" (i.e. Hacker News) is not the same as theirs. That's bullshit. By accepting Our Contracts and using Our services, You agree to abide to Our code of ethics which consists, in particular, of protecting and respecting minors, human dignity, public order and good moral standards, not infringing on the rights of third parties (private life, image, honor and reputation, trademarks, designs and models, copyrights, etc.) or the security of persons, property, the government, or the good working order of public institutions, and to help in the fight against abusive and/or deviant uses of the Internet (spamming, phishing, hacking, cracking, or attempts at hacking or cracking), or any other infraction as cited in the Penal Code. You also commit Yourself to ensuring that any third party to whom You would resell Our services, or grant a license of use, or grant any access or ability to modify any published Contents, will fully abide by the terms and conditions herein, and that You are able to effectively guarantee this commitment with regards to Gandi, and You remain fully responsible in case of violation of this Contract and/or violation of laws and legislations in force, without prejudice of Your liability towards third parties ... You acknowledge and accept that the use of Our service: • is expressly forbidden for use in any way that engages or participates in practices that are deviant, abusive, illegal, or prejudicial, and • must be done so in a way that is strictly legal and that respects all applicable and regulatory laws, and if applicable, the country in which You are located and perform Your activity, or the destination where You propose Your products and services, • must notably respect the rights of third parties (intellectual property rights, personality rights, image, honor, and reputation rights, and the right of privacy and the secrecy of correspondence), and • must be appropriate to the age and sensibility of each of the individuals that any of the content is destined for, directly or indirectly, published or made available to via the technical solutions used. ...and that's just part of it. http://www.gandi.net/static/contracts/en/g2/pdf/MSA-1.3-EN.pdf http://www.gandi.net/static/contracts/en/g2/pdf/MSA-1.3-EN.p...

I very much appreciate gandi.net. Read their no bullshit™ policy :) https://www.gandi.net/no-bullshit https://www.gandi.net/no-bullshit

by Spoygg 14y ago

I very much appreciate gandi.net. Read their no bullshit™ policy :) https://www.gandi.net/no-bullshit https://www.gandi.net/no-bullshit

3825 14y ago

I was told to avoid registering and hosting at the same company. What do you think about that?

shanehudson 14y ago
Sounds like good advice to me.
- Spoygg 14y ago
  Please elaborate, thanks :)
  - shanehudson 14y ago
    Well for a start, using the same company will make it much harder to move. Often the price shoots up after a year too. And then there is the risk of somebody getting access, it is easier usually to hack a website than a registrar so a cracker or their could get access to your domain through a security flaw in your website. Also, companies are usually either better at domain management or hosting rather than both, I have huge respect for good support teams like Krystal Hosting have,which is easier when they are focused. I'm not saying don't use the same company, but I always tend to prefer them separate.
    - Spoygg 14y ago
      I understood question: "I was told to avoid registering and hosting at the same company. What do you think about that?" as "I was told to avoid registering and hosting at gandi.net. What do you think about that?" If it was meant as asked than there maybe some truth to it. But than again if you are confident in how some company handles one area than that may give some credibility of their work in other areas. When I started using gandi they were just a domain registrar. And I am yet to use them as hosting provider. I agree somewhat with your view, it can be true in some cases :)
Spoygg 14y ago
I do not think about that until you give some examples or actual records.

dangrossman 14y ago

Have you read their actual contract terms instead of their marketing materials? If any content on your website (even if user-generated) violates their "code of ethics", Gandi can take your domain from you. There's pretty much no way to run any kind of forum, blog with comments, website with any adult content, or even a site which simply expresses opinions that are not legal in another country, without giving Gandi the contractual right to take your domain and kill your site whenever they want. And good luck explaining that your definition of "hacking" (i.e. Hacker News) is not the same as theirs. That's bullshit. By accepting Our Contracts and using Our services, You agree to abide to Our code of ethics which consists, in particular, of protecting and respecting minors, human dignity, public order and good moral standards, not infringing on the rights of third parties (private life, image, honor and reputation, trademarks, designs and models, copyrights, etc.) or the security of persons, property, the government, or the good working order of public institutions, and to help in the fight against abusive and/or deviant uses of the Internet (spamming, phishing, hacking, cracking, or attempts at hacking or cracking), or any other infraction as cited in the Penal Code. You also commit Yourself to ensuring that any third party to whom You would resell Our services, or grant a license of use, or grant any access or ability to modify any published Contents, will fully abide by the terms and conditions herein, and that You are able to effectively guarantee this commitment with regards to Gandi, and You remain fully responsible in case of violation of this Contract and/or violation of laws and legislations in force, without prejudice of Your liability towards third parties ... You acknowledge and accept that the use of Our service: • is expressly forbidden for use in any way that engages or participates in practices that are deviant, abusive, illegal, or prejudicial, and • must be done so in a way that is strictly legal and that respects all applicable and regulatory laws, and if applicable, the country in which You are located and perform Your activity, or the destination where You propose Your products and services, • must notably respect the rights of third parties (intellectual property rights, personality rights, image, honor, and reputation rights, and the right of privacy and the secrecy of correspondence), and • must be appropriate to the age and sensibility of each of the individuals that any of the content is destined for, directly or indirectly, published or made available to via the technical solutions used. ...and that's just part of it. http://www.gandi.net/static/contracts/en/g2/pdf/MSA-1.3-EN.pdf http://www.gandi.net/static/contracts/en/g2/pdf/MSA-1.3-EN.p...