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Leaders in the MIRI/EA cult-o-sphere have advocated mass murder via nuclear weapons against towns that don't prevent people from performing too many multiplicat

by nullc 11d ago

Leaders in the MIRI/EA cult-o-sphere have advocated mass murder via nuclear weapons against towns that don't prevent people from performing too many multiplication operations. Why is anyone surprised that they'd engage in deceptive false flagging operations?

drdeca 10d ago
This is a lie, so you are either repeating a lie from someone else or lying yourself. The people you are talking about have not advocated mass murder via nuclear weapons. The idea was precisely targeted non-nuclear strikes against only the servers themselves. (Which, would have plenty of forewarning to allow people to leave the building.) The claim that they advocated for the use of nuclear weapons is a lie.
- nullc 10d ago
  I am speaking from direct personal experience: Yud's cult is inherently violent. By having defined their priorities as essential to the survival of any life on earth they have pre-justified taking any action 'necessary', no matter how cruel or extreme... even actions that they admit have only a small change of helping according to their own assessments because they've defined their doom as so unimaginably bad, effectively infinitely bad. (much worse than mass-extinction, in fact) But you don't have to take my word for what the mentally ill AI doomer cult believes, you can take it from their leader when he called on states to "Make it explicit in international diplomacy that preventing AI extinction scenarios is considered a priority above preventing a full nuclear exchange, and that allied nuclear countries are willing to run some risk of nuclear exchange if that’s what it takes to reduce the risk of large AI training runs." Don't make excuses for omnicidal authoritarian cults and their sadist leadership.
  - drdeca 7d ago
    You said “advocated mass murder via nuclear weapons”, which is false. That’s the thing that is relevant here, not how much you hate them. Also, “sadist”? What?

by nullc 11d ago

drdeca 10d ago

This is a lie, so you are either repeating a lie from someone else or lying yourself. The people you are talking about have not advocated mass murder via nuclear weapons. The idea was precisely targeted non-nuclear strikes against only the servers themselves. (Which, would have plenty of forewarning to allow people to leave the building.) The claim that they advocated for the use of nuclear weapons is a lie.

nullc 10d ago
I am speaking from direct personal experience: Yud's cult is inherently violent. By having defined their priorities as essential to the survival of any life on earth they have pre-justified taking any action 'necessary', no matter how cruel or extreme... even actions that they admit have only a small change of helping according to their own assessments because they've defined their doom as so unimaginably bad, effectively infinitely bad. (much worse than mass-extinction, in fact) But you don't have to take my word for what the mentally ill AI doomer cult believes, you can take it from their leader when he called on states to "Make it explicit in international diplomacy that preventing AI extinction scenarios is considered a priority above preventing a full nuclear exchange, and that allied nuclear countries are willing to run some risk of nuclear exchange if that’s what it takes to reduce the risk of large AI training runs." Don't make excuses for omnicidal authoritarian cults and their sadist leadership.
- drdeca 7d ago
  You said “advocated mass murder via nuclear weapons”, which is false. That’s the thing that is relevant here, not how much you hate them. Also, “sadist”? What?