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On one hand, folks here seem quite skeptical of the idea, and are pointing out some obvious flaws. On the other, the announcement post… also seems quite skepti

On one hand, folks here seem quite skeptical of the idea, and are pointing out some obvious flaws. On the other, the announcement post… also seems quite skeptical of the idea, and devotes a lot of text to the ridiculous things their AI’s have done. I’m slightly confused as to why they would release it in that case. But if nothing else it will give them more wackiness to blog about.

skyberrys 12d ago
You reminded me of a comic hanging up in the engineering college. It was a picture of a student getting their finger zapped with the thought bubble of "ouch, that hurt. Wonder if it will happen if I do that again?" And the caption was along the lines of "How to tell if you are ment for engineering."
- noncoml 12d ago
  I’m genuinely not sure who is meant for Engineering. The one who would try it again or the one who wouldn’t
  - ipsod 12d ago
    if curiosity > pain avoidance: engineer
    - noncoml 12d ago
      I see. Sounds more like a scientist to me :)
      - mitxela 12d ago
        yeah that's definitely scientist. The two are easy to conflate since they both deal with manipulating reality to make it do things we want, but science focuses on understanding the reality itself and engineering focuses on getting it to do what we want.
        ipsod 11d ago
        Still seems like the same driving force of curiosity behind both, but one wants to know and one wants to do. It's like yin and yang, like two sides of the same coin. I'm into engineering because I want to create what's never existed. Science is more about discovering what already exists.
        mitxela 11d ago
        For sure, yin and yang. As a kid, I didn't understand the difference between Dewey Decimal 500s and 600s.
- rznicolet 12d ago
  Sounds like this ancient XKCD: https://xkcd.com/242/ https://xkcd.com/242/ (Normal person doesn't pull the lever again; scientist wonders if that happens every time. I assume the engineer does, too...)
  - bee_rider 12d ago
    The scientist’s job is to get zapped until they figure out why. The engineer’s job is to get zapped a couple times while they wire that thing up into the power grid.
  - skyberrys 12d ago
    That's it
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- womble2 12d ago
  https://xkcd.com/242/ https://xkcd.com/242/
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pokpokpok 12d ago
Andon Labs sells learning environments to labs. Their usefulness is proportional to how well they can capture interesting model missing capabilities, not how well they employ current day capabilities

skyberrys 12d ago

You reminded me of a comic hanging up in the engineering college. It was a picture of a student getting their finger zapped with the thought bubble of "ouch, that hurt. Wonder if it will happen if I do that again?" And the caption was along the lines of "How to tell if you are ment for engineering."

noncoml 12d ago
I’m genuinely not sure who is meant for Engineering. The one who would try it again or the one who wouldn’t
- ipsod 12d ago
  if curiosity > pain avoidance: engineer
  - noncoml 12d ago
    I see. Sounds more like a scientist to me :)
    - mitxela 12d ago
      yeah that's definitely scientist. The two are easy to conflate since they both deal with manipulating reality to make it do things we want, but science focuses on understanding the reality itself and engineering focuses on getting it to do what we want.
      - ipsod 11d ago
        Still seems like the same driving force of curiosity behind both, but one wants to know and one wants to do. It's like yin and yang, like two sides of the same coin. I'm into engineering because I want to create what's never existed. Science is more about discovering what already exists.
        mitxela 11d ago
        For sure, yin and yang. As a kid, I didn't understand the difference between Dewey Decimal 500s and 600s.
rznicolet 12d ago
Sounds like this ancient XKCD: https://xkcd.com/242/ https://xkcd.com/242/ (Normal person doesn't pull the lever again; scientist wonders if that happens every time. I assume the engineer does, too...)
- bee_rider 12d ago
  The scientist’s job is to get zapped until they figure out why. The engineer’s job is to get zapped a couple times while they wire that thing up into the power grid.
- skyberrys 12d ago
  That's it
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womble2 12d ago
https://xkcd.com/242/ https://xkcd.com/242/
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pokpokpok 12d ago

Andon Labs sells learning environments to labs. Their usefulness is proportional to how well they can capture interesting model missing capabilities, not how well they employ current day capabilities