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Sanctions on Iran are justified. But I worry this kind of action will just lead to the eventual rise of an alternative tech ecosystem in the long term, probably

by pibaker 12d ago

Sanctions on Iran are justified. But I worry this kind of action will just lead to the eventual rise of an alternative tech ecosystem in the long term, probably led by china and Russia. It will be bad for us, bad for people living under those regimes, but good for the regimes themselves because they will have the fullest control over their technology, without having to compromise with the West. Another example of why maximalist political hostility can be counterproductive. Leave an olive branch in sight, and you may work towards a mutually beneficial resolution, like the previous Iran nuclear deals. If push your opponent into a corner, then don't get upset when they jump over the wall into the wild where you can't catch them anymore. See also Chinese chips and AI.

hammock 12d ago
> Sanctions on Iran are justified For what?
- ImHereToVote 12d ago
  For retaliating against they president being assassinated and their country attacked. This is strictly against the rules based order.
  - stickfigure 12d ago
    It's not "their" president, Iranians didn't elect him. Khomeini was a religious extremist who only months ago presided over the murder of ten thousand protesters and we should shed not one tear.
    - Mikhail_Edoshin 11d ago
      He was elected by a so-called council of experts. Those experts are elected by the people, although screened by the council of constitutional guards. The council consists of six lawyers assigned by the leader and six lawyers elected by the parliament. (There's a parliament and a civil president.) Iran is a republic. It became a republic in 1979 on a national referendum. Before that it was a monarchy. That monarchy used to be limited since 1941, but in 1953 it was restored as a result of an overthrow backed by US and Britain. The cause of that was that the civil government tried to nationalize oil companies. The last monarch is in exile but, apparently, hopes to return to power if the US wins. The West is a fantastic liar and a tremendous used car salesman. There's a short story by Mark Twain how he tried to run for a governor. Satirical, but truthful. Yet somehow the West managed to sell the idea that a regular shitshow of this kind is a pinnacle of state development, that states who do not run it are, of course, oppressors and oppressed, and that any means against them are thus justified.
- pibaker 12d ago
  For human rights violations at home and sponsorship of extremism aboard. I also believe many of our current "allies" in the region should face similar sanctions in case you are wondering.
  - applfanboysbgon 12d ago
    The US itself should be sanctioned by your listed metric.
    - hammock 12d ago
      Isn’t that what they say the tariffs are?
      - edoceo 12d ago
        USA sanctioned themselves?
    - Danox 11d ago
      The US is starting to have more countries look to other avenues and several of our closest friends are leading the charge. I would like to believe that after the current nightmare is over, we can put several things right but that’s a big if.
  - FactolSarin 12d ago
    I don't disagree, but that's not why they're being sanctioned
  - swat535 12d ago
    > I also believe many of our current "allies" in the region should face similar sanctions in case you are wondering. Interesting take, coming from a nation that has caused: - 210,296 violent civilian deaths in IRAQ - 500,000 civilians killed om Japan - 70,000 civilians killed in Vietnam - 46,000 civilians killed in Afghanistan - 3,000 civilians killed in IRAN - Threatened to exterminate Persians civilization, blown up bridges, killed children and destroyed civilian infrastructure I think United States should be sanctioned.
- misano 12d ago
  Because the fascist mullahs’ regime wants the entire world to act according to its wishes. We’re lucky that North Korea doesn’t control any straits.
  - krunck 12d ago
    s/mullah/American/
- crabbone 12d ago
  This is not a good question to ask. It's not for what. It's to prevent what. Even if you don't care about how Iran treats its own population, you should care about how it treats others because one day it might be you. Iran's ideology is expansionalist. They want to export their ideas far and wide. While also physically suppressing their opponents. Since the emergence of two global superpowers after WW2, most armed conflicts were, essentially, between those two. Directly or indirectly. If the two could find a peaceful solution, the world at large had a good day. And for a while it seemed like we might be left with just one superpower, and so no conflicts at all. Only policing. The whole "multipolar" spiel you might hear from powers that challenge this policing is what is going to result in a long and bloody struggle for world domination. It won't be like the world wars we remember, where most of the world had to choose one of the two sides. It will be a quagmire of more local conflicts with very volatile alliances and a lot more casualties overall. More like Italian city states. It's necessary to police Iran and similar bad countries because if their challenge of the power monopoly succeeds, the world will be hurled into anarchy equipped with very deadly weapons...
  - iamnothere 12d ago
    Multipolarity is inevitable. You can’t forcefully hold most of the world’s population down, especially when you already shipped off your manufacturing capacity to earn a few bucks. As always, the question for the declining hegemon is whether a new order can arise peacefully or not. The UK managed to go peacefully in the end, but only after two brutal and deadly world wars sapped them of their remaining strength. Still, their acquiescence allowed them to retain an outsized seat at the table. China doesn’t seem interested in becoming a unipolar hegemon, at least based on public statements and openly published policy/position papers, so perhaps they have learned that it’s bad to be the hegemon from watching both the UK and the US take it on the chin. Rather than the Yuan becoming the default international currency, it’s possible that Keynes’s Bancor (or something like it) may finally replace the notion of a singular reserve currency, which always fails in predictable ways.
    - fragmede 11d ago
      How can something "always fail" if it's never been tried? Negativity much?
- _djo_ 12d ago
  Human rights violations, violations of the Non-Proliferation Treaty, violations of related UNSC Resolutions, sponsorship of terrorism, and many others. We can wholeheartedly disagree with the US's war on Iran without pretending Iran is a 'good' international actor. It's a rogue state and has been for decades.
nharziro 12d ago
They are not justified in the least bit.
LudwigNagasena 12d ago
Russia recently moved to its own SSL certificates due to sanctions. Now you cannot use a bank without allowing the government to MITM you.
- sam_lowry_ 12d ago
  Can't US government MITM all of us, even with certificate transparency logs?
  - theginger 12d ago
    Not without leaving potential proof that it happened behind
    - hulitu 11d ago
      Dream on.
  - SSLy 12d ago
    metadata is juicier anyway.
  - hiciu 12d ago
    some of us voluntarily mitm ourselves via cloudflare ;)
  - throwaway89201 11d ago
    They can only do that through an "SSL added and removed here ;-)"-like 'cooperation' and not through passive listening because with forward secrecy a certificate key doesn't secure the transport encryption directly. They could actively MITM outside the perimeter of the target by issuing a new certificate, but that would show up on CT logs.
    - saidnooneever 11d ago
      tls1.3 you can fully mitm with nice green padlock, its much easier if you have access to CAs where most big 'trusted' are US based. that being said a lot of govt for their services use their own ones and what is trusted and not trusted in CA land is highly dubious at best. try looking at all those weird nooneheardofthem names in the CA bundles on modern systems. besides that its quite likely they will have intercepted most key exchanges since thats still a problem and pretty easy to see happening if you say, tap the backbone -_-. US and few other have really futuristic capabilities here. its hard to imagine snowden was 14 years of secret innovation ago... it has only gotten much worse friend.
zokula 12d ago
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MadrasTh0rn 12d ago
Justified but extremely short sighted
ericmay 12d ago
> But I worry this kind of action will just lead to the eventual rise of an alternative tech ecosystem in the long term, probably led by china and Russia. It will be bad for us, bad for people living under those regimes, but good for the regimes themselves because they will have the fullest control over their technology, without having to compromise with the West. I'm not sure that isolating Iran in particular has much of an effect because countries don't want to be in Russia's orbit, China's orbit is Only Good for China, and so aside from a European-only/led system the best option would still be the current state/system. The best solution to all of these problems is for Iran to just behave like pretty much all other countries, but in lieu of that and in lieu of us having a desire to really go to war in Iran, we're just going to have to take actions like this because we can't have this regime opposed to us and western values and pursuing nuclear weapons (prior to, during, and after JCPOA) but then enjoying the benefits of the American-led financial system. If Iran, China, North Korea, and Russia want to get together and create their own crappy Intranet that nobody uses, well, more power to them. Hope they have fun. > If push your opponent into a corner, then don't get upset when they jump over the wall into the wild where you can't catch them anymore. See also Chinese chips and AI. I think this is a gross mischaracterization of the evolution of these arrangements. There's a lot of nuance here, but the United States helped get China into the WTO based on the premise that they'd liberalize and then what happened? State-directed investment, banning of competitor products, subsidized over-capacity to deindustrialize other countries, artificially cheap currency to boost exports. Russia? They were part of the The NATO-Russia Founding Act and then decided they'd rather do war and stuff. Iran? Won't stop pursuing nuclear weapons for no reason (among other things), so now their economy is going to tank. So it's really the opposite. Even when you think about the JCPOA, let's say it wasn't torn up. Why was/is Iran still funding militant groups that are destabilizing other countries in the region? The west, not just the US mind you, did its damned best to include these specific countries into the western rules-based order, allowed gross injustices and breaches of good conduct, and still tried only to now itself be backed into a corner (Iran, Russia invading Ukraine, Chinese economic destruction) and has to finally respond. As a civilization, and yes that includes folks in the EU even if you are mad at the current president, we need to stop assuming we're the problem or we're the bad guys by default and start holding other countries to account.
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lxgr 12d ago
Much worse, this will greatly improve their position with regards to wiretapping their own citizens. Depending on who you are, Western CAs can come with some availability problems, but thanks to certificate transparency, you don't even have to trust the CA if you mostly care about security. Take a wild guess as to whether an Iranian CA will support that...
- crabbone 11d ago
  I doubt Iranians needed sanctions as an excuse to install their own CAs and require their citizens to use them. Many authoritarian regimes require their citizens to use domestically produced networking software that is different degrees of compromised.
egorfine 12d ago
> Sanctions on Iran are justified The main problem with sanctions is that it's the wrong people on the receiving end. Russian oligarchs and military businessmen have exactly zero problems managing their money, while ordinary people who flew russia into the EU - they face unsurmountable piles of unsolvable problems due to sanctions.
- pibaker 12d ago
  No disagreement. It is very unfortunate that our policymakers seem to like the spectacle hurting the average person who happened to have been born in the wrong country more than going after the ones actually holding power.
  - egorfine 12d ago
    The average person is available, helpless and most importantly - their suffering is clearly visible to the voters.
- 2asg-qwwt 12d ago
  Yes, Russian oligarchs use London and Dubai for laundering. Ironically, Iranians elites use Dubai, too while launching occasional missiles at UAE. The only thing that would work is bribing the Iranian military (perhaps the non-IRGC part) like they did in Syria. Exile Iranians of course won't fight but they rather talk and demand that others fight.
d0mine 12d ago
Is the implication that those who impose these sanctions can MITM anybody in the world except for countries under sanctions (which have to use their own root CAs)?
2OEH8eoCRo0 12d ago
Maybe it will force competition. One of America's best strengths is competitive dynamism which we have gotten away from.
tclover 12d ago
Then USA should also sanction USA, or Israel at least.
yassermzh 12d ago
the whole point of economic sanctions, as besset himself said, is to make people frustrated in order to create chaos and uprisings, people fighting each other, having a failed nation, and ready to be targeted by US/israel to turn it into all other israel neighbors. since israel existence is only through killing and destruction. stealing its oil like Venezuela is another goal. human rights is just an excuse. how many millions US has killed in west asia you think? good news is that nothing last forever. one day it gets back to you.
- fitman339 12d ago
  > all other israel neighbors Israel’s neighbors Jordan and Egypt have made peace with Israel and have had no issues since then. You may have been misled by anti-Israel propaganda.
  - ebbi 11d ago
    > "Israel’s neighbors Jordan and Egypt have made peace with Israel" The governments may have, but I can assure you the average citizen of those countries haven't, as they still have morals and haven't got US funding to buy their morals.
    - fitman339 11d ago
      No one is claiming that there isn’t plenty of hate for Israel in the Middle East. Those citizens, OP, and you buy the Islamofascist narrative of “Israel attacks all its neighbors” when in reality Israel has had peace with half its neighbors for decades - the neighbors who have agreed not to attack Israel and handle their own terrorists themselves.
- cucumber3732842 11d ago
  The point of economic sanctions is to act like a several % ball and chain around economic growth so over a generation or two whoever you've applied them to is impoverished, relatively speaking, and don't have much of a surplus to spend really resisting whatever you (or your regional buddies) are trying to do that they wouldn't like.
sivakon 11d ago
US sanctions alone are responsible for nearly 565,000 deaths/year around the world.[1] The UN Human Rights Council just confirmed US blockade against Cuba violates human rights and international law, citing Article 33 of Fourth Geneva Convention, which prohibits collective punishment.[2] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(25)00189-5/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-1... https://x.com/mhdksafa/status/2098058012145389602 https://x.com/mhdksafa/status/2098058012145389602
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- DavCreator 11d ago
  https://xxcancel.com/mhdksafa/status/2098058012145389602 https://xxcancel.com/mhdksafa/status/2098058012145389602
ioulaum 9d ago
Yes, this bungling approach to misusing the financial system is why alternate systems are being developed. Like freezing Russian assets and breaking faith internationally... Gotta know what is not actually worth doing. They need some Alexander Hamilton like people to teach them the basics that only through establishing trust and predictability can the US be strong and have access to international money at scale. ... The lack of talent among these people is disturbing. But then, Team Trump is really a bunch of rebels. They have no respect for the US Government or how it functions. The Democrats recently don't either. They're basically going to just give up the advantages the US gained after WW2.

by pibaker 12d ago

hammock 12d ago

> Sanctions on Iran are justified For what?

ImHereToVote 12d ago
For retaliating against they president being assassinated and their country attacked. This is strictly against the rules based order.
- stickfigure 12d ago
  It's not "their" president, Iranians didn't elect him. Khomeini was a religious extremist who only months ago presided over the murder of ten thousand protesters and we should shed not one tear.
  - Mikhail_Edoshin 11d ago
    He was elected by a so-called council of experts. Those experts are elected by the people, although screened by the council of constitutional guards. The council consists of six lawyers assigned by the leader and six lawyers elected by the parliament. (There's a parliament and a civil president.) Iran is a republic. It became a republic in 1979 on a national referendum. Before that it was a monarchy. That monarchy used to be limited since 1941, but in 1953 it was restored as a result of an overthrow backed by US and Britain. The cause of that was that the civil government tried to nationalize oil companies. The last monarch is in exile but, apparently, hopes to return to power if the US wins. The West is a fantastic liar and a tremendous used car salesman. There's a short story by Mark Twain how he tried to run for a governor. Satirical, but truthful. Yet somehow the West managed to sell the idea that a regular shitshow of this kind is a pinnacle of state development, that states who do not run it are, of course, oppressors and oppressed, and that any means against them are thus justified.
pibaker 12d ago
For human rights violations at home and sponsorship of extremism aboard. I also believe many of our current "allies" in the region should face similar sanctions in case you are wondering.
- applfanboysbgon 12d ago
  The US itself should be sanctioned by your listed metric.
  - hammock 12d ago
    Isn’t that what they say the tariffs are?
    - edoceo 12d ago
      USA sanctioned themselves?
  - Danox 11d ago
    The US is starting to have more countries look to other avenues and several of our closest friends are leading the charge. I would like to believe that after the current nightmare is over, we can put several things right but that’s a big if.
- FactolSarin 12d ago
  I don't disagree, but that's not why they're being sanctioned
- swat535 12d ago
  > I also believe many of our current "allies" in the region should face similar sanctions in case you are wondering. Interesting take, coming from a nation that has caused: - 210,296 violent civilian deaths in IRAQ - 500,000 civilians killed om Japan - 70,000 civilians killed in Vietnam - 46,000 civilians killed in Afghanistan - 3,000 civilians killed in IRAN - Threatened to exterminate Persians civilization, blown up bridges, killed children and destroyed civilian infrastructure I think United States should be sanctioned.
misano 12d ago
Because the fascist mullahs’ regime wants the entire world to act according to its wishes. We’re lucky that North Korea doesn’t control any straits.
- krunck 12d ago
  s/mullah/American/
crabbone 12d ago
This is not a good question to ask. It's not for what. It's to prevent what. Even if you don't care about how Iran treats its own population, you should care about how it treats others because one day it might be you. Iran's ideology is expansionalist. They want to export their ideas far and wide. While also physically suppressing their opponents. Since the emergence of two global superpowers after WW2, most armed conflicts were, essentially, between those two. Directly or indirectly. If the two could find a peaceful solution, the world at large had a good day. And for a while it seemed like we might be left with just one superpower, and so no conflicts at all. Only policing. The whole "multipolar" spiel you might hear from powers that challenge this policing is what is going to result in a long and bloody struggle for world domination. It won't be like the world wars we remember, where most of the world had to choose one of the two sides. It will be a quagmire of more local conflicts with very volatile alliances and a lot more casualties overall. More like Italian city states. It's necessary to police Iran and similar bad countries because if their challenge of the power monopoly succeeds, the world will be hurled into anarchy equipped with very deadly weapons...
- iamnothere 12d ago
  Multipolarity is inevitable. You can’t forcefully hold most of the world’s population down, especially when you already shipped off your manufacturing capacity to earn a few bucks. As always, the question for the declining hegemon is whether a new order can arise peacefully or not. The UK managed to go peacefully in the end, but only after two brutal and deadly world wars sapped them of their remaining strength. Still, their acquiescence allowed them to retain an outsized seat at the table. China doesn’t seem interested in becoming a unipolar hegemon, at least based on public statements and openly published policy/position papers, so perhaps they have learned that it’s bad to be the hegemon from watching both the UK and the US take it on the chin. Rather than the Yuan becoming the default international currency, it’s possible that Keynes’s Bancor (or something like it) may finally replace the notion of a singular reserve currency, which always fails in predictable ways.
  - fragmede 11d ago
    How can something "always fail" if it's never been tried? Negativity much?
_djo_ 12d ago
Human rights violations, violations of the Non-Proliferation Treaty, violations of related UNSC Resolutions, sponsorship of terrorism, and many others. We can wholeheartedly disagree with the US's war on Iran without pretending Iran is a 'good' international actor. It's a rogue state and has been for decades.

nharziro 12d ago

They are not justified in the least bit.

LudwigNagasena 12d ago

Russia recently moved to its own SSL certificates due to sanctions. Now you cannot use a bank without allowing the government to MITM you.

sam_lowry_ 12d ago
Can't US government MITM all of us, even with certificate transparency logs?
- theginger 12d ago
  Not without leaving potential proof that it happened behind
  - hulitu 11d ago
    Dream on.
- SSLy 12d ago
  metadata is juicier anyway.
- hiciu 12d ago
  some of us voluntarily mitm ourselves via cloudflare ;)
- throwaway89201 11d ago
  They can only do that through an "SSL added and removed here ;-)"-like 'cooperation' and not through passive listening because with forward secrecy a certificate key doesn't secure the transport encryption directly. They could actively MITM outside the perimeter of the target by issuing a new certificate, but that would show up on CT logs.
  - saidnooneever 11d ago
    tls1.3 you can fully mitm with nice green padlock, its much easier if you have access to CAs where most big 'trusted' are US based. that being said a lot of govt for their services use their own ones and what is trusted and not trusted in CA land is highly dubious at best. try looking at all those weird nooneheardofthem names in the CA bundles on modern systems. besides that its quite likely they will have intercepted most key exchanges since thats still a problem and pretty easy to see happening if you say, tap the backbone -_-. US and few other have really futuristic capabilities here. its hard to imagine snowden was 14 years of secret innovation ago... it has only gotten much worse friend.

zokula 12d ago

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MadrasTh0rn 12d ago

Justified but extremely short sighted

ericmay 12d ago

> But I worry this kind of action will just lead to the eventual rise of an alternative tech ecosystem in the long term, probably led by china and Russia. It will be bad for us, bad for people living under those regimes, but good for the regimes themselves because they will have the fullest control over their technology, without having to compromise with the West. I'm not sure that isolating Iran in particular has much of an effect because countries don't want to be in Russia's orbit, China's orbit is Only Good for China, and so aside from a European-only/led system the best option would still be the current state/system. The best solution to all of these problems is for Iran to just behave like pretty much all other countries, but in lieu of that and in lieu of us having a desire to really go to war in Iran, we're just going to have to take actions like this because we can't have this regime opposed to us and western values and pursuing nuclear weapons (prior to, during, and after JCPOA) but then enjoying the benefits of the American-led financial system. If Iran, China, North Korea, and Russia want to get together and create their own crappy Intranet that nobody uses, well, more power to them. Hope they have fun. > If push your opponent into a corner, then don't get upset when they jump over the wall into the wild where you can't catch them anymore. See also Chinese chips and AI. I think this is a gross mischaracterization of the evolution of these arrangements. There's a lot of nuance here, but the United States helped get China into the WTO based on the premise that they'd liberalize and then what happened? State-directed investment, banning of competitor products, subsidized over-capacity to deindustrialize other countries, artificially cheap currency to boost exports. Russia? They were part of the The NATO-Russia Founding Act and then decided they'd rather do war and stuff. Iran? Won't stop pursuing nuclear weapons for no reason (among other things), so now their economy is going to tank. So it's really the opposite. Even when you think about the JCPOA, let's say it wasn't torn up. Why was/is Iran still funding militant groups that are destabilizing other countries in the region? The west, not just the US mind you, did its damned best to include these specific countries into the western rules-based order, allowed gross injustices and breaches of good conduct, and still tried only to now itself be backed into a corner (Iran, Russia invading Ukraine, Chinese economic destruction) and has to finally respond. As a civilization, and yes that includes folks in the EU even if you are mad at the current president, we need to stop assuming we're the problem or we're the bad guys by default and start holding other countries to account.

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lxgr 12d ago

Much worse, this will greatly improve their position with regards to wiretapping their own citizens. Depending on who you are, Western CAs can come with some availability problems, but thanks to certificate transparency, you don't even have to trust the CA if you mostly care about security. Take a wild guess as to whether an Iranian CA will support that...

crabbone 11d ago
I doubt Iranians needed sanctions as an excuse to install their own CAs and require their citizens to use them. Many authoritarian regimes require their citizens to use domestically produced networking software that is different degrees of compromised.

egorfine 12d ago

> Sanctions on Iran are justified The main problem with sanctions is that it's the wrong people on the receiving end. Russian oligarchs and military businessmen have exactly zero problems managing their money, while ordinary people who flew russia into the EU - they face unsurmountable piles of unsolvable problems due to sanctions.

pibaker 12d ago
No disagreement. It is very unfortunate that our policymakers seem to like the spectacle hurting the average person who happened to have been born in the wrong country more than going after the ones actually holding power.
- egorfine 12d ago
  The average person is available, helpless and most importantly - their suffering is clearly visible to the voters.
2asg-qwwt 12d ago
Yes, Russian oligarchs use London and Dubai for laundering. Ironically, Iranians elites use Dubai, too while launching occasional missiles at UAE. The only thing that would work is bribing the Iranian military (perhaps the non-IRGC part) like they did in Syria. Exile Iranians of course won't fight but they rather talk and demand that others fight.

d0mine 12d ago

Is the implication that those who impose these sanctions can MITM anybody in the world except for countries under sanctions (which have to use their own root CAs)?

2OEH8eoCRo0 12d ago

Maybe it will force competition. One of America's best strengths is competitive dynamism which we have gotten away from.

tclover 12d ago

Then USA should also sanction USA, or Israel at least.

yassermzh 12d ago

the whole point of economic sanctions, as besset himself said, is to make people frustrated in order to create chaos and uprisings, people fighting each other, having a failed nation, and ready to be targeted by US/israel to turn it into all other israel neighbors. since israel existence is only through killing and destruction. stealing its oil like Venezuela is another goal. human rights is just an excuse. how many millions US has killed in west asia you think? good news is that nothing last forever. one day it gets back to you.

fitman339 12d ago
> all other israel neighbors Israel’s neighbors Jordan and Egypt have made peace with Israel and have had no issues since then. You may have been misled by anti-Israel propaganda.
- ebbi 11d ago
  > "Israel’s neighbors Jordan and Egypt have made peace with Israel" The governments may have, but I can assure you the average citizen of those countries haven't, as they still have morals and haven't got US funding to buy their morals.
  - fitman339 11d ago
    No one is claiming that there isn’t plenty of hate for Israel in the Middle East. Those citizens, OP, and you buy the Islamofascist narrative of “Israel attacks all its neighbors” when in reality Israel has had peace with half its neighbors for decades - the neighbors who have agreed not to attack Israel and handle their own terrorists themselves.
cucumber3732842 11d ago
The point of economic sanctions is to act like a several % ball and chain around economic growth so over a generation or two whoever you've applied them to is impoverished, relatively speaking, and don't have much of a surplus to spend really resisting whatever you (or your regional buddies) are trying to do that they wouldn't like.

sivakon 11d ago

US sanctions alone are responsible for nearly 565,000 deaths/year around the world.[1] The UN Human Rights Council just confirmed US blockade against Cuba violates human rights and international law, citing Article 33 of Fourth Geneva Convention, which prohibits collective punishment.[2] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(25)00189-5/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-1... https://x.com/mhdksafa/status/2098058012145389602 https://x.com/mhdksafa/status/2098058012145389602

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ioulaum 9d ago

Yes, this bungling approach to misusing the financial system is why alternate systems are being developed. Like freezing Russian assets and breaking faith internationally... Gotta know what is not actually worth doing. They need some Alexander Hamilton like people to teach them the basics that only through establishing trust and predictability can the US be strong and have access to international money at scale. ... The lack of talent among these people is disturbing. But then, Team Trump is really a bunch of rebels. They have no respect for the US Government or how it functions. The Democrats recently don't either. They're basically going to just give up the advantages the US gained after WW2.