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You’re saying ‘works behind a firewall’, or ‘works without an internet connection’. Maybe ‘works on a fully isolated LAN or VLAN’? A LAN (or WiFi) typically ha
by lazide 18d ago
You’re saying ‘works behind a firewall’, or ‘works without an internet connection’. Maybe ‘works on a fully isolated LAN or VLAN’?
A LAN (or WiFi) typically has routability to the Internet (though doesn’t have to, of course!) which is why what you are saying is confusing. It has for at least 20 years, and is especially true in residential, but also true even in commercial.
Those some IP addresses could also be NAT’d, and often are.
Most modern products have also spent significant R&D figuring out how to bypass NAT and firewalls and even hide from packet inspection (tunneling DNS and command and control over HTTPS, for one example).
Very few people are able to handle or setup actual air gapped LANs now (or isolated VLANs), but anything besides that is risky in these scenarios.
- wat10000 18d agoI was replying to “Manufacturers just need to realize that LANs exist and allow their devices to be used with the Internet turned off.” If it took you this long to figure out what I was talking about, I don’t think it’s really a problem with my description.
- lazide 18d agoSo weird, it’s like you refuse to read my comment and keep replying with the part of your comment which ISN’T that part, and then act like I’m the problem when I point out you aren’t making any sense. Are you real?
- wat10000 18d agoYour comments consist of two parts. 1) telling me that I’m wrong because you insist on not understanding what I’m saying 2) a bunch of irrelevant stuff based on not understanding. So yeah, I’m replying to part 1 and ignoring part 2.
- lazide 17d agoSo what, praytell, does LAN have to do with your comment. Since I was pointing out, that it was the ‘turn off the internet’ part, not the LAN/Wifi that mattered. And that was the part that you kept ignoring.